Carl: "By all means" it is okay for Alabama to defy federal court orders

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3. AFAIC, this is secession by another name

or... a nameless secession, at least. How else to understand what states like these are doing? The issue is, how to stop it without our side actually declaring open war on these traitorous states? When you can't even count on the courts not being politically, ideologically neutral, as they are suppose to be, what recourse do we have?

I actually like the idea of withdrawing federal dollars from these states. There must be some sort of punishment... to make them adhere to the "United" States of America, or declare themselves not to be such and dealt with in according fashion. I feel bad for the people of those states, many of whom are fighting to put them back on the right path... but the overwhelming number of voters put these people into office, so they must agree with them.

And that places me into the thought mode I've been in and out of for more than a few years now... I see no way out of this mess than to split the country into two sections. I just haven't figured out how to keep "them" in their country. There could be no wall built high enough against them. But then, I'm a pessimist when it comes to dealing with this without the violence that side seems to want so badly. I'm just tired of giving up progress, freedom of movement and freedom of association, not to mention bodily autonomy to these fascists.