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RandySF

(84,329 posts)
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 02:32 PM Aug 2023

Carl: "By all means" it is okay for Alabama to defy federal court orders

During an event Wednesday APR asked U.S. Rep. Jerry Carl, R-Mobile, if it was okay for Alabama to disobey federal court orders and Carl responded saying, “by all means.”

Carl was a guest speaker at an Alabama League of Municipalities event and discussed several topics including Space Command, his role on Appropriations, municipalities and redistricting.

In June the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Allen v. Milligan, that Alabama’s 2021 congressional map likely violated the Voting Rights Act because it diluted Black voting power. In their decision the Supreme Court backed up a federal court’s prior ruling that Alabama had to redraw their maps to include two majority Black districts or something “close to it.” Because of this decision the Alabama Legislature convened a special session to redraw the maps in July.

Carl stated that, “our House members and our Senate members in the state did a fantastic job drawing a map.” However, the map that was drawn did not meet the mandate of the court to include two majority Black districts or something close. The Republican supermajority devised a map that only included one Black majority district but this district was already majority Black and they reduced the percentage from 55 to 51 percent.




https://www.alreporter.com/2023/08/17/carl-says-by-all-means-it-is-okay-for-alabama-to-defy-federal-court-orders/

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brush

(61,033 posts)
1. He doesn't think his state should obey federal court orders. Sounds like he want to be...
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 02:45 PM
Aug 2023

seperate from the US. Guess we'll have pull back federal aid, shutdown federal installations in the state like military bases, post offices, courthouses...and of course all the paychecks they provide to Alabamians.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
2. The republicans are drunk with power and out of their damn minds. It's insane.
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 02:53 PM
Aug 2023

They need to be brought down a few pegs.

slightlv

(7,790 posts)
3. AFAIC, this is secession by another name
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 04:22 PM
Aug 2023

or... a nameless secession, at least. How else to understand what states like these are doing? The issue is, how to stop it without our side actually declaring open war on these traitorous states? When you can't even count on the courts not being politically, ideologically neutral, as they are suppose to be, what recourse do we have?

I actually like the idea of withdrawing federal dollars from these states. There must be some sort of punishment... to make them adhere to the "United" States of America, or declare themselves not to be such and dealt with in according fashion. I feel bad for the people of those states, many of whom are fighting to put them back on the right path... but the overwhelming number of voters put these people into office, so they must agree with them.

And that places me into the thought mode I've been in and out of for more than a few years now... I see no way out of this mess than to split the country into two sections. I just haven't figured out how to keep "them" in their country. There could be no wall built high enough against them. But then, I'm a pessimist when it comes to dealing with this without the violence that side seems to want so badly. I'm just tired of giving up progress, freedom of movement and freedom of association, not to mention bodily autonomy to these fascists.

11 Bravo

(24,310 posts)
4. Good thing Johnny Applecheeks and his SCOTUS pals have determined that the Votig Rights Act ...
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 04:42 PM
Aug 2023

is no longer necessary due to the demise of institutional state-sponsored racism.
Otherwise those Alabama ratfuckers might try to do something shady.

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