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Mike Nelson

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7. Yikes!

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 05:15 AM

Jul 2021

... that's not what we've thought in the US. Every report I've seen says we are okay... 64% is not okay and the next variant will be worse!

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COVID vaccine only 64% effective against Delta variant - Israeli research [View all] OhioChick Jul 2021 OP

Yup! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #1

Interestingly enough... OhioChick Jul 2021 #3

Yes they have the highest vax rate SheltieLover Jul 2021 #8

Same article says 93% effective against hospitalizations and death so doing it's MAIN job uponit7771 Jul 2021 #28

Whelp. We all gonna die. herding cats Jul 2021 #2

Yes, we sure are.... OhioChick Jul 2021 #4

I'm immunocompromised. herding cats Jul 2021 #6

I thought Moderna was 90% against Delta? vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #5

Better get out the masks again n/t OhioChick Jul 2021 #9

I guess so vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #12

I feel normal WITH my mask. nt joetheman Jul 2021 #16

You are MUCH MUCH safer, and thank God for that. But you are still able to catch it Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #20

Never put the masks Sherman A1 Jul 2021 #17

That's wise..... n/t OhioChick Jul 2021 #66

Israel has Pfizer and that number is not holding up as Delta takes hold. Moderna Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #19

93% effective against hospitalizations and death means it's doing it's MAIN job uponit7771 Jul 2021 #26

It also means you still need to mask and take precautions because even some mild Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #27

What percentage of mild cases? tia uponit7771 Jul 2021 #29

Google is your friend. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #30

There aren't any studies of mild cases of vaxed people yet uponit7771 Jul 2021 #33

. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #35

None in those links have peer reviewed controlled studies of the vaxed uponit7771 Jul 2021 #36

See my update to the post. What is your point here? You seem to be very adamant that no one Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #37

Vaxes weren't meant to be inoculation and the mild vaxed cases don't have any ... uponit7771 Jul 2021 #39

So what is your point? What is the reason you keep saying over and over that the vaccines Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #40

That's a claim that just won't die Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #62

Seems nutty to me. Especially because it DOES prevent disease. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #63

They weren't sure at the beginning - Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #64

No, masks never again Calculating Jul 2021 #54

You go with your bad self. But, seriously, wearing a mask is "hiding from it forever?" Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #57

I HATE masks... especially in the Summer. Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #31

Meh. I've had hangnails that gave me worse problems. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #32

That's not really the point. Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #56

It's also about not spreading the virus. I've felt good knowing Hortensis Jul 2021 #65

Preventing hospitalizations and death. Never meant to be inoculation from get uponit7771 Jul 2021 #25

This is a tiny non peer reviewed study. Wouldn't put much stock in it until it's peer reviewed. BannonsLiver Jul 2021 #46

Which over the top doomy posts are those? You keep referring to these in multiple threads, but Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #52

More reason to stay masked while we wait for peer reviews. nt chowder66 Jul 2021 #55

People should practice caution no matter what BannonsLiver Jul 2021 #58

Totally agree. : ) chowder66 Jul 2021 #59

+1 ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Jul 2021 #53

Yikes! Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #7

Are you referring to the Lambda strain? n/t OhioChick Jul 2021 #11

No... Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #14

It's adapting.... OhioChick Jul 2021 #15

Actually, the serum studies look really good for pfizer or moderna vs lambda Pobeka Jul 2021 #34

That's good news! Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #38

I thought... Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #44

Also this is the reason why it is sensible for us to pay for vaccines for places that Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #48

Absolutely. nt crickets Jul 2021 #67

Thank you for posting this! Duppers Jul 2021 #10

I wish everyone were like the both of you in regard to precautions.... OhioChick Jul 2021 #13

Same here, and EFF the maskholes and antivaxxers. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #43

There is one store where I shop that wnylib Jul 2021 #49

Caution is always wise, and yet... RobertDevereaux Jul 2021 #18

The "over 90%" is from the manufacturer in controlled conditions. The Israel number is from Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #21

"..Recent peer reviewed measures .." That's not just manufacturer data and the vax's weren't meant . uponit7771 Jul 2021 #23

True but that same study Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #22

***THANK YOU !!!*** People think the vax's were meant to be inoculation from get. They weren't uponit7771 Jul 2021 #24

So, following through on that logic, wnylib Jul 2021 #51

Thanks to Trump for making the variants possible. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #41

Never stopped wearing the mask indoors, though vaccinated. Pobeka Jul 2021 #42

Is this peer reviewed? Sure doesn't seem like it. BannonsLiver Jul 2021 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #50

I will be wearing my mask, social distancing, and avoiding public places to the Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2021 #47

It's not that simple themaguffin Jul 2021 #60