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PatrickforO

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48. No...but if we put Maher up against Bloomberg, we're
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:57 PM
Apr 2020

most definitely not talking apples to apples.

Maher has a net worth of $100 million.

Bloomberg has a net worth of $55.8 billion.

So, way different story here. As an economist, I do believe that the very existence of billionaires represents a substantial failure in fiscal policy.

But, interestingly, I had this argument with my son just the other day, holding myself up as a model of non-greed. He popped my little balloon promptly, and said that even I want more. He said being a billionaire is about wanting just a 'little bit more' as a constant state.

I did not concede the point, though, because it seems to me that we need a tax policy in place that is confiscatory down to, say $500 million, and a hard cap for CEO compensation to $500,000 a year. No one needs to earn more than that, and no one needs to have a net worth above half a billion. They just don't.

Now, as to your other point, the fundamental question is whether we should excuse either Bloomberg or Maher from holding positions with which we disagree merely because both have donated substantially to the Democratic party.

Bloomberg is a Republican, as befits his net worth, because their policies actually benefit him, but switched to the Democratic party for convenience. Interesting. Now I don't know his real motive, because I'm not inside his head, but judging by what he has done, he made some noise about spending big money on ads against Trump even if he lost the Democratic primary, and he seems to be doing that. Here's his latest released at the beginning of last month:

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So back to my point: Is Bloomberg off the hook for past positions just because he's throwing money against Trump? My take on it is no, he is not. Sure, the ads against Trump are great, and I hesitate to attribute motive except to say that those ads serve what I believe is the national interest. Bloomberg, with a net worth of over $55 billion does not. Or at least one guy with that much wealth does not.

Maher? Well, maybe, each of these men came into contact with their 'better angels,' as Obama would say, and are doing something noble in the face of just being human. Where does serving self end, and serving humankind begin?

Well, enough philosophizing. It has been nice debating with you! Stay safe in this new locked down reality we are all living.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Beyond me SheltieLover Apr 2020 #1
Hmmm... it's almost like there's a larger, coordinated agenda at work to keep Bernie in the race... Blue Owl Apr 2020 #2
Sanders was on Bill Maher tonight. He seemed relaxed and in good humor. Hoyt Apr 2020 #3
Maybe because Bernie has a lot of good ideas and a large following? Bluepinky Apr 2020 #4
Fine. Let him first withdraw from the race, close this chapter question everything Apr 2020 #6
I agree with that, everyone needs to vote for the Democratic candidate in the general election. Bluepinky Apr 2020 #10
Bingo! Champion Jack Apr 2020 #71
What Good Ideas? Me. Apr 2020 #74
Not large enough to win the primary. He lost...and should sashay away. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #77
Every circus needs a clown Grokenstein Apr 2020 #5
he does represent a substantial consituency and has the same ideas I had 40 yrs ago lol nt msongs Apr 2020 #7
Fine. First let him leave the race and tell his followers to vote for Biden question everything Apr 2020 #8
The Democratic party had many of those ideas then, too. Gore1FL Apr 2020 #11
And still do...but surely we can do better than M4A...an old plan...and my sis is no Medicare and Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #78
Cool! Take that assuredness and use it to reach out to Sanders supporters Gore1FL Apr 2020 #82
14% support him at DU. 48% are undecided. nt Gore1FL Apr 2020 #9
DU is a site on the internet, which is global. George II Apr 2020 #25
So you admit Sanders clearly has enough supporters globally to be interviewed. Gore1FL Apr 2020 #28
So you admit that perhaps some of that 14% are not American voters? George II Apr 2020 #33
48% aren't undecided. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #56
So there are at least 14% for Sanders at this site and maybe more. Gore1FL Apr 2020 #60
A large part of the undecided don't come here often and have not bother to pick a nominee...he Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #79
Maybe they are all hoping he will announce the suspension of his campaign Bev54 Apr 2020 #12
I wonder if they're "secret admirers" of wanting Cha Apr 2020 #13
Maher has never been a friend of the Democratic Party Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #14
Maher voted for Republican Bob Dole in 1996 against Bill Clinton LVZ Apr 2020 #15
Thanks Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #17
And I think that Jon Stewart voted for papa Bush in 1988 question everything Apr 2020 #31
I believe it is a mistake for any of us to make the Democratic Party some PatrickforO Apr 2020 #19
Don't dishonestly put words in my mouth Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #21
Indeed. But dissent sometimes can be the highest form of patriotism. PatrickforO Apr 2020 #22
Does dissent include parroting GOP talking points? Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #24
We try never to miss Maher. I have noticed this parroting a couple times, most PatrickforO Apr 2020 #38
That wasn't my question. Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #41
Took him awhile to build back up, though. PatrickforO Apr 2020 #46
No a few months is not years Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #50
Indeed. Politically Incorrect was canceled in 2002 and Real Time launched in 2003. stopbush Apr 2020 #64
My biggest issue with Bill is he's always a week behind whenever he talks about polling HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #49
Biden has a great record on SS...and there is more to that...if you care to look it up. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #80
Except for the $1,000,000 he donated to Obama. Gore1FL Apr 2020 #29
So? Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #40
I don't think we should be in the business of ostracizing people. Gore1FL Apr 2020 #43
Who is saying anyone should be ostracized? Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #51
One need merely pick at random any given anti-Sanders thread . Gore1FL Apr 2020 #62
This is about Bill Maher, not Bernie Sanders. Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #65
Are we on the same thread? Gore1FL Apr 2020 #66
And my post was in regard to Maher Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #67
Why are we expending ammo on not-friend and not-enemies? Gore1FL Apr 2020 #68
Some of us can walk and chew gum Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #69
But why walk in that direction and chew that gum? Gore1FL Apr 2020 #70
Because we should call out lying RW talking points Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #72
No...but if we put Maher up against Bloomberg, we're PatrickforO Apr 2020 #48
Who was putting Maher against Bloomberg? Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #52
Well, it does not always work out for him - re: Whoopi to Bernie - Why? LVZ Apr 2020 #16
What was his answer? True Blue American Apr 2020 #34
Well, I don't dislike Bernie like so many on here, and I do like his platform. PatrickforO Apr 2020 #18
Well Said, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #23
What you said. Gore1FL Apr 2020 #30
"Unnatural and unfortunate" dislike? question everything Apr 2020 #35
I acknowledge there were Sanders supporters that voted for other candidates besides Clinton in 2016. Gore1FL Apr 2020 #42
Utopia? True Blue American Apr 2020 #36
Indeed. I hear that with the new stimulus package, the bottom line PatrickforO Apr 2020 #45
Media Today, Sir, Likes To See A Contest The Magistrate Apr 2020 #20
Agreed. Conflict. BS is always 'angry'. Especially at Dems. BS's own '3rd way'. empedocles Apr 2020 #26
Couple of things...... MyOwnPeace Apr 2020 #57
Thank You, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #75
They have nothing of note to report on? randr Apr 2020 #27
Remember the days Chainfire Apr 2020 #32
Hey Chainfire! MyOwnPeace Apr 2020 #58
Because Sanders ideas are going to win out, even without the nomination. milestogo Apr 2020 #37
Uh huh. Aquaria Apr 2020 #53
No he hasn't. Warren, Biden, Boxer...etc have all had a bigger impact...his M4A will never become Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #81
I'm not a Sanders fan, but he has been out there for the past 6 years stopbush Apr 2020 #39
And this is different from what Democrats have been saying Aquaria Apr 2020 #55
SOME Democrats have been saying this, hardly all Ds. stopbush Apr 2020 #61
When the ratings come in, they will see Sanders was a bust DenverJared Apr 2020 #44
It's something to talk about customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #47
Velshi Featured That Interview 3x In The Last 48 hours Me. Apr 2020 #54
I think sanders Trying to rally Wisconsin voters that's why he's on tv FloridaBlues Apr 2020 #59
He Wouldn't Be If They Didn't Push It Me. Apr 2020 #73
To create issues treestar Apr 2020 #63
Ratings, ratings, ratings. Controversy sells. degage Apr 2020 #76
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