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Scurrilous

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41. That and much, much more.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:56 PM
Mar 2020
Bernie Sanders Gets a D- for His Climate Plan

'Bernie Sanders released his climate change plan today, and Bernie being Bernie it was naturally the biggest, leftiest, most socialist plan out there. And that was the good part. The bad part is that it’s practically designed to fail.

If you’re going to propose a massive, $16 trillion plan, the first thing you should do is get as many people on board as possible. Instead, Sanders practically revels in pissing off as many stakeholders as possible. He’s going to tax the rich. He’s going to hobble the fossil fuel industry. He’s going to ban nuclear power. He’s going to nationalize electric generation and turn it over to the federal government.

And then there are the absurd promises. He’s going to create 20 million new union jobs. (No he’s not, unless he also creates 20 million new human beings.) He’s going to eliminate fossil fuels by 2030 at the latest. (I don’t think even the most optimistic environmentalist thinks we can build out solar and wind that fast.) Electricity will be “virtually free” by 2035. (Oh please.)'

'The Sanders plan looks to me like the worst kind of kitchen sink proposal: a “plan” that avoids making any hard choices by simply saying that we’ll do everything. Call me cranky, but I’m tired of this stuff. It’s a box-checking exercise designed to appeal to every possible lefty constituency rather than something that has even the remotest chance of building the public support needed to get it passed through Congress.'

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/08/bernie-sanders-gets-a-d-for-his-climate-plan/
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what president pushed for the paris agreement? Joe was there, sanders was off ranting about somethin beachbumbob Mar 2020 #1
Because Sanders said it doesn't matter whether we rejoin the Paris Accord or not. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #2
That was a real Bernie faux pas karynnj Mar 2020 #36
Biden is not minimizing the importance of climate change handmade34 Mar 2020 #3
Bernie: "Paris Accord, no big deal". nt oasis Mar 2020 #4
That comment is brain dead -- it is both not enough and a big deal karynnj Mar 2020 #37
It was Bernie's way of minimizing an accomplishment of oasis Mar 2020 #40
It's a dismissive expression, to pivot to the audience with a smile... Alex4Martinez Mar 2020 #5
The comment deserved to be dismissed. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #7
It was extremely effective. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #12
Climate Change is my number two issue texasfiddler Mar 2020 #6
Because Sanders position on climate change is laughable? n/t. NNadir Mar 2020 #8
I am still waiting for some Democratic politician to admit that the EROEI on renewables alone is not Celerity Mar 2020 #13
Senators Sanders is a dyed in the wool intellectually inflexible anti-nuke of the worst kind. NNadir Mar 2020 #14
I think we are are extremely rare on here in regards to our Celerity Mar 2020 #15
We are less alone than we were ten years ago. NNadir Mar 2020 #16
Yes, we are rare. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #21
I am pro nuclear as well. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #46
+100 Celerity Mar 2020 #47
Think I'm gonna put you on my Christmas card list, NN BidenBacker Mar 2020 #22
I didn't read Sanders climate change proposal but did read that grantcart Mar 2020 #23
He apparently thinks the answer to every... NNadir Mar 2020 #25
Politicians need to stay outta engineering BidenBacker Mar 2020 #28
I'm not sure I totally agree about engineers... NNadir Mar 2020 #29
Was just kidding, NN BidenBacker Mar 2020 #31
Sorry for missing the sarcasm. I generally... NNadir Mar 2020 #32
No problem BidenBacker Mar 2020 #33
That and much, much more. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #41
Over promise, under deliver, bankrupt the government for decades. grantcart Mar 2020 #43
Bernie has this thing about electricity, maybe because his got cut off and he's all about Bernie. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #51
John Kerry was willing to consider nuclear when he worked on climate change in 2009/2010 karynnj Mar 2020 #38
OH Please.. SunsetDreams2 Mar 2020 #9
Because Obama/Biden Have a Record Of Increasing ... TomCADem Mar 2020 #10
Impressive-looking chart, TD BidenBacker Mar 2020 #19
if anyone has driven thru west TX and seen the hundreds of windmills, they will know wind power onetexan Mar 2020 #48
In Vegas a few weeks ago... TomCADem Mar 2020 #49
Great to hear. Clean energy is the way to go! onetexan Mar 2020 #50
Bernie's young voters? The ones not coming out to vote for him? Those? n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #11
To be honest BidenBacker Mar 2020 #17
Bernie is getting crushed this primary because young voters have bailed on him. Kaleva Mar 2020 #18
Biden simply gave Bernie the "Paul Ryan 2012 debate treatment" and it worked - Bernie was rattled. Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #20
In case anybody's interested in reading up a little on fusion energy BidenBacker Mar 2020 #24
.... rzemanfl Mar 2020 #26
"Biden's minimizing the importance of climate change---" That's a damn lie Atticus Mar 2020 #27
I saw that fund raising email from Bernie, too. Politicub Mar 2020 #30
I disliked that smirky grin of his! iwannaknow Mar 2020 #34
Are you ok with finger wagging? LongtimeAZDem Mar 2020 #35
how about the Sanders scowl? wyldwolf Mar 2020 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Scurrilous Mar 2020 #42
That's all right drink some cherry kool aid and you will feel better grantcart Mar 2020 #45
Biden bro? iwannaknow Mar 2020 #52
my guess is he's laughing at your empty criticism LanternWaste Mar 2020 #44
The so-called "Bernie Bros" have nothing on some of the DU Biden supporters wackadoo wabbit Mar 2020 #53
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