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In reply to the discussion: Why is Biden laughing? The point Bernie is making about climate change is not flippant [View all]Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)41. That and much, much more.
Bernie Sanders Gets a D- for His Climate Plan
'Bernie Sanders released his climate change plan today, and Bernie being Bernie it was naturally the biggest, leftiest, most socialist plan out there. And that was the good part. The bad part is that its practically designed to fail.
If youre going to propose a massive, $16 trillion plan, the first thing you should do is get as many people on board as possible. Instead, Sanders practically revels in pissing off as many stakeholders as possible. Hes going to tax the rich. Hes going to hobble the fossil fuel industry. Hes going to ban nuclear power. Hes going to nationalize electric generation and turn it over to the federal government.
And then there are the absurd promises. Hes going to create 20 million new union jobs. (No hes not, unless he also creates 20 million new human beings.) Hes going to eliminate fossil fuels by 2030 at the latest. (I dont think even the most optimistic environmentalist thinks we can build out solar and wind that fast.) Electricity will be virtually free by 2035. (Oh please.)'
'The Sanders plan looks to me like the worst kind of kitchen sink proposal: a plan that avoids making any hard choices by simply saying that well do everything. Call me cranky, but Im tired of this stuff. Its a box-checking exercise designed to appeal to every possible lefty constituency rather than something that has even the remotest chance of building the public support needed to get it passed through Congress.'
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/08/bernie-sanders-gets-a-d-for-his-climate-plan/
'Bernie Sanders released his climate change plan today, and Bernie being Bernie it was naturally the biggest, leftiest, most socialist plan out there. And that was the good part. The bad part is that its practically designed to fail.
If youre going to propose a massive, $16 trillion plan, the first thing you should do is get as many people on board as possible. Instead, Sanders practically revels in pissing off as many stakeholders as possible. Hes going to tax the rich. Hes going to hobble the fossil fuel industry. Hes going to ban nuclear power. Hes going to nationalize electric generation and turn it over to the federal government.
And then there are the absurd promises. Hes going to create 20 million new union jobs. (No hes not, unless he also creates 20 million new human beings.) Hes going to eliminate fossil fuels by 2030 at the latest. (I dont think even the most optimistic environmentalist thinks we can build out solar and wind that fast.) Electricity will be virtually free by 2035. (Oh please.)'
'The Sanders plan looks to me like the worst kind of kitchen sink proposal: a plan that avoids making any hard choices by simply saying that well do everything. Call me cranky, but Im tired of this stuff. Its a box-checking exercise designed to appeal to every possible lefty constituency rather than something that has even the remotest chance of building the public support needed to get it passed through Congress.'
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/08/bernie-sanders-gets-a-d-for-his-climate-plan/
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Why is Biden laughing? The point Bernie is making about climate change is not flippant [View all]
wackadoo wabbit
Mar 2020
OP
what president pushed for the paris agreement? Joe was there, sanders was off ranting about somethin
beachbumbob
Mar 2020
#1
Because Sanders said it doesn't matter whether we rejoin the Paris Accord or not.
TwilightZone
Mar 2020
#2
I am still waiting for some Democratic politician to admit that the EROEI on renewables alone is not
Celerity
Mar 2020
#13
Senators Sanders is a dyed in the wool intellectually inflexible anti-nuke of the worst kind.
NNadir
Mar 2020
#14
Bernie has this thing about electricity, maybe because his got cut off and he's all about Bernie.
Scurrilous
Mar 2020
#51
John Kerry was willing to consider nuclear when he worked on climate change in 2009/2010
karynnj
Mar 2020
#38
if anyone has driven thru west TX and seen the hundreds of windmills, they will know wind power
onetexan
Mar 2020
#48
Biden simply gave Bernie the "Paul Ryan 2012 debate treatment" and it worked - Bernie was rattled.
Skya Rhen
Mar 2020
#20
The so-called "Bernie Bros" have nothing on some of the DU Biden supporters
wackadoo wabbit
Mar 2020
#53