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PatSeg

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33. For a lot of young men,
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:14 PM
Mar 2020

being involved in the movements at the time meant ready access to sex and drugs. Women often were there to cook, clean, and serve the guy's needs. Not terribly enlightening. Even Jane Fonda took on that role with her husband Tom Hayden, often living in his shadow and adjusting her life to his, which is rather bizarre considering what a major public figure she was. Only a handful of women had found their voice by that time. We were still living in a man's world.

I never got involved in any of the actual movements, as I've never been much of a joiner. Once I married and had a child, we "dropped out" of society for a couple of years and traveled the country in a VW Van (I know, it is such a cliche). That way, I got to meet people on a more individual level. As a rule, I am really uncomfortable with people in large groups. I like small, intimate interactions with stimulating conversations. Those would be what I miss the most about that time, though that could just be a youth thing!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
I remember that time as well PatSeg Mar 2020 #1
Like Pete Buttigieg said, we're long past due for a political reset. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #2
Exactly. As Democrats, we need to stop focusing primarily on Presidents. MineralMan Mar 2020 #9
Yes PatSeg Mar 2020 #10
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. MineralMan Mar 2020 #6
The term "unbending" PatSeg Mar 2020 #11
Exactly. That was what turned me off from the movement at that time. MineralMan Mar 2020 #13
Any study of the Russian revolution PatSeg Mar 2020 #14
Boris Pasternak's "Doctor Zhivago" is a pretty MineralMan Mar 2020 #16
Me too PatSeg Mar 2020 #17
I was so much older then musicman65 Mar 2020 #19
I agree Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #3
I agree with some of them, although Hayden's understanding of many MineralMan Mar 2020 #7
Just a side note here PatSeg Mar 2020 #12
Too cool! MineralMan Mar 2020 #21
He was there the day PatSeg Mar 2020 #22
I followed that trial pretty closely. MineralMan Mar 2020 #23
Yes, that is what I recall PatSeg Mar 2020 #24
Patriarchy, absolutely. MineralMan Mar 2020 #25
For a lot of young men, PatSeg Mar 2020 #33
disagree with something from that piece. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #4
You're right about that, I think, although I don't like the word "white trash" one bit. MineralMan Mar 2020 #8
Movement politics Todd79 Mar 2020 #5
Tom was a good Irishman. H2O Man Mar 2020 #15
The Establishment Didn't Destroy Bernie Sanders. He destroyed himself Gothmog Mar 2020 #18
Good article. His conspiratorial talk bothers me. I think it bothers a lot of people who want emmaverybo Mar 2020 #26
Great post. brush Mar 2020 #32
The movement described in that piece resonates for me... The Sanders movement does not Blasphemer Mar 2020 #20
I have been poor. True Blue American Mar 2020 #28
Thank you for that! True Blue American Mar 2020 #27
the democratic party has been a party of movements rampartc Mar 2020 #29
It's interesting that you mention Ralph Nader. MineralMan Mar 2020 #30
a hero to many of us of that age rampartc Mar 2020 #35
I'm of that age, as well. I do not consider Ralph Nader to be any sort of hero. MineralMan Mar 2020 #36
Agreed, his favorite phrase, "fighting the establishment" is pure '60s campus radical... brush Mar 2020 #31
As we're seeing, though, young people are not flocking to the polls MineralMan Mar 2020 #34
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