Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
73. No, it's not ridiculous. The OP is very clear about the distinction being made.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:57 AM
Mar 2020

One of these two men is addressing a problem and speaking to the nation about the problem. The other is reverting to "stump speech" talking points and is flanked with a background of campaign signs... thus making it about himself, rather than the nation and the problem at hand.

This is a very reasonable observation to make and it reveals much about the different styles and different priorities of each man and the philosophies of their campaign staff.

Now I know it's OBVIOUS that NEITHER Biden or Sanders was personally responsible for "set design" and how the flags/props were arranged. Obviously, those things were handled by their staffs. But this does give a clear insight as to the inner workings and mindset (and priorities) of the staff... and it also provides a big clue to the priorities of both candidates too.

After all, each candidate (presumably) had a hand in hiring or approving the hires and each candidate is only going to hire top staff who has similar priorities and values and ethics, right? In addition, over time, those staff members begin to learn what their boss likes/dislikes and what the boss expects/accepts/rejects. So it's very fair for the observer to look at these two "stage sets" ... contrast and compare... and come to some different conclusions that draw stark differences between the two men.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
In fairness, there is one flag. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #1
Many Trump supporters fly a different flag. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #2
My thought too. gristy Mar 2020 #4
Right, in difficult circumstances; elleng Mar 2020 #8
He hired that staff. nt showblue22 Mar 2020 #38
+ a Billion! sheshe2 Mar 2020 #3
Joe Biden looked more presidential. Confident and self-assured. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #5
Biden looked like a president. Sanders looked like a candidate StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #18
That's silly. elleng Mar 2020 #6
It's embarrassing... humiliating... that's what it is. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #12
What's "silly"? Cha Mar 2020 #15
to suggest these trivial views summarize elleng Mar 2020 #17
I don't think it's "silly" at all. Biden is inerested Cha Mar 2020 #20
I disagree. Biden stands for the nation & party. Sanders stand foremost for the cult of Bernie. Julian English Mar 2020 #23
Agreed. Republicans are quite good at waving the flag. And politicians love to stand in front of it. pampango Mar 2020 #69
Biden made a reality based address to the Nation on Cha Mar 2020 #70
I agree about the quality of his address. To focus on flags is misguided. n/t pampango Mar 2020 #79
The press is treating Biden as if he is already president McCamy Taylor Mar 2020 #7
And he delivered. Aquaria Mar 2020 #14
Joe looked Presidential, Bernie looked like redstateblues Mar 2020 #9
Priorities, eh? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #10
I said almost the same thing before I read your post StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #19
Biden was upright, erect, and forceful. Sander was slumped over the podium, leaning on it. George II Mar 2020 #11
One looked confident and assured... the other looked tired and worn-out. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #13
With campaign signs in the Background.. Biden Cha Mar 2020 #16
This! Thank you! MineralMan Mar 2020 #21
You're Welcome, MM.. Thank you! Cha Mar 2020 #22
The way Sanders slumps on the podium R B Garr Mar 2020 #50
Exactly as I was reading this post and looking at the photos BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #24
Wow.. that doesn't seem like Cha Mar 2020 #25
No, Chris was just showing them and their speeches. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #26
Aha.. Thank you.. wonder if Hayes got Cha Mar 2020 #27
Doubt it, at least not yet. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #28
Bernie staff: Hey! Who left that flag up! It's blocking some of the Bernie signs! n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #29
This is ridiculous SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #30
Thank you mountain grammy Mar 2020 #42
I'll go ahead and call it sammythecat Mar 2020 #47
Yep mountain grammy Mar 2020 #54
Thank you. redqueen Mar 2020 #52
I'm left of BS but he was never viable. It's time for him to work for unity & not for BS. Julian English Mar 2020 #62
Forget the flags.. Biden addressed the Nation Cha Mar 2020 #71
Kick & recommended. William769 Mar 2020 #31
It was for those who didn't know who he was. C Moon Mar 2020 #32
+1 dalton99a Mar 2020 #33
Flags really Snoopy 7 Mar 2020 #34
When did Biden vote to give billionaires tax cuts? showblue22 Mar 2020 #39
Yes please keep going. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #41
Biden is Winning.. The Voters have Cha Mar 2020 #74
So it's not the message but the presentation. rickyhall Mar 2020 #35
Presentation can matter. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #78
I'm supporting Biden, but I think that's a pretty irrelevant thing to point out. Rabrrrrrr Mar 2020 #36
1 We don't need division and the premise this thread is that. Gore1FL Mar 2020 #37
It looks like he is more into himself than the well being of the nation. showblue22 Mar 2020 #40
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #43
It's not the flag, it's the Bernie signs plastered in the background. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #55
Well trump dry humps the flag mountain grammy Mar 2020 #44
No, it's not ridiculous. The OP is very clear about the distinction being made. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #73
Well said, Jackie.. thank you. Cha Mar 2020 #77
This isn't about the "flags" so Cha Mar 2020 #75
Senior citizen and female lins the liberal Mar 2020 #45
More flags equals better American. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #46
Biden from minute one...but this is actually ridiculously stupid. Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #48
So, Sanders isn't as patriotic as Biden? sarge43 Mar 2020 #53
It's not the flags, it's the Bernie signs plastered in the background. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #56
Like I said ridiculous...does not matter one iota what Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #58
No.. that's not it at all. Biden gave an address Cha Mar 2020 #72
I'm leaning heavily toward Joe, but NellieStarbuck Mar 2020 #49
Exactly. sarge43 Mar 2020 #57
I'm tired of candidates who are cult of personality. Julian English Mar 2020 #63
Well lucky you.. no one is choosing Biden over Cha Mar 2020 #76
What has Joe done for organized labor. juxtaposed Mar 2020 #51
Lived in that world? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #59
So not a thing, since he has been in office? juxtaposed Mar 2020 #60
What world are u talking about???? juxtaposed Mar 2020 #61
: "Joe has been very supportive of the labor movement for the last 40 years. He stands for working.. Cha Mar 2020 #64
Fire Fighters for Biden Cha Mar 2020 #65
Ding! Ding! Ding! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #66
I'm sure TheFarseer Mar 2020 #67
I don't understand your comment... Duppers Mar 2020 #68
Lame. Very very lame. donheld Mar 2020 #80
oh ffs ProfessorPlum Mar 2020 #81
Means nothing. Trump hugs the flag on stage, Bluepinky Mar 2020 #82
No rockfordfile Mar 2020 #83
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Democratic Primaries»The real difference betwe...»Reply #73