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Blasphemer

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20. The movement described in that piece resonates for me... The Sanders movement does not
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:43 PM
Mar 2020

I can see that that is where his roots are, but they have become badly distorted.

There can be no poor people’s movement in any form unless the poor can overcome their fear and embarrassment. I think the release comes from a certain kind of organizing which tries to make people understand their own worth and dignity. This work depends on the existence of “material issues” as a talking and organizing point—high rents, voting rights, unpaved roads, and so on—but it moves from there into the ways such issues are related to personal life. The organizer spends hours and hours in the community, listening to people, drawing out their own ideas, rejecting their tendency to depend on him for solutions. Meetings are organized at which people with no “connections” can be given a chance to talk and work out problems together—usually for the first time. All this means fostering in everyone that sense of decision-making power which American society works to destroy. Only in this way can a movement be built which the Establishment can neither buy off nor manage, a movement too vital ever to become a small clique of spokesmen.


This paragraph tells the story of my the Sanders movement has not captured me. There is a dependence on a messianic savior figure who is meant to take us to the promised land. There is not an ethos of empowerment or bottom-up decisonmaking.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
I remember that time as well PatSeg Mar 2020 #1
Like Pete Buttigieg said, we're long past due for a political reset. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #2
Exactly. As Democrats, we need to stop focusing primarily on Presidents. MineralMan Mar 2020 #9
Yes PatSeg Mar 2020 #10
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. MineralMan Mar 2020 #6
The term "unbending" PatSeg Mar 2020 #11
Exactly. That was what turned me off from the movement at that time. MineralMan Mar 2020 #13
Any study of the Russian revolution PatSeg Mar 2020 #14
Boris Pasternak's "Doctor Zhivago" is a pretty MineralMan Mar 2020 #16
Me too PatSeg Mar 2020 #17
I was so much older then musicman65 Mar 2020 #19
I agree Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #3
I agree with some of them, although Hayden's understanding of many MineralMan Mar 2020 #7
Just a side note here PatSeg Mar 2020 #12
Too cool! MineralMan Mar 2020 #21
He was there the day PatSeg Mar 2020 #22
I followed that trial pretty closely. MineralMan Mar 2020 #23
Yes, that is what I recall PatSeg Mar 2020 #24
Patriarchy, absolutely. MineralMan Mar 2020 #25
For a lot of young men, PatSeg Mar 2020 #33
disagree with something from that piece. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #4
You're right about that, I think, although I don't like the word "white trash" one bit. MineralMan Mar 2020 #8
Movement politics Todd79 Mar 2020 #5
Tom was a good Irishman. H2O Man Mar 2020 #15
The Establishment Didn't Destroy Bernie Sanders. He destroyed himself Gothmog Mar 2020 #18
Good article. His conspiratorial talk bothers me. I think it bothers a lot of people who want emmaverybo Mar 2020 #26
Great post. brush Mar 2020 #32
The movement described in that piece resonates for me... The Sanders movement does not Blasphemer Mar 2020 #20
I have been poor. True Blue American Mar 2020 #28
Thank you for that! True Blue American Mar 2020 #27
the democratic party has been a party of movements rampartc Mar 2020 #29
It's interesting that you mention Ralph Nader. MineralMan Mar 2020 #30
a hero to many of us of that age rampartc Mar 2020 #35
I'm of that age, as well. I do not consider Ralph Nader to be any sort of hero. MineralMan Mar 2020 #36
Agreed, his favorite phrase, "fighting the establishment" is pure '60s campus radical... brush Mar 2020 #31
As we're seeing, though, young people are not flocking to the polls MineralMan Mar 2020 #34
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