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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Sunday's One-on-One Debate is Essential [View all]Gothmog
(154,120 posts)54. sanders staying in the race and losing by large mardins will be amusing
sanders not dropping out may help Biden. sanders keeps on losing primaries by large margins nnly strenghten's Joe's position https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/11/no-surprise-bernie-sanders-is-still-all-about-himself-never-party/
Sanderss remaining in the race should serve several salutary purposes for the party and the country. First, seeing him lose overwhelmingly week after week will dispel the notion that the Democratic Party has moved left, or that he is in a dominant position to negotiate with the overwhelming winner. Its not clear why the Biden camp should give Sanders anything.
Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....
Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.
Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sundays debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.
Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....
Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.
Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sundays debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Please stop with the "corporate status quo" stuff, it's insulting to us LIFETIME Democrats.
George II
Mar 2020
#5
When Hillary was Secretary of State she had a level of sustained popularity that few others
StevieM
Mar 2020
#20
Dick Cheny used a private server, too, it was legal. He lost 7,000,000 e-mails.
marble falls
Mar 2020
#23
Correction. Trump won because 80K blue collars in the rust belt were sufficiently
Doremus
Mar 2020
#25
Those stats are meaningless without knowing how many Republicans on the other side
totodeinhere
Mar 2020
#47
There are disenchanted voters in every election and different candidates disenchant different voters
StevieM
Mar 2020
#31
Well Michigan showed no love for Sanders last night. And he has now lost Washington.
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#36
It will definitely be the best debate so far, lets hope MSM keeps out of it this time. nt
yaesu
Mar 2020
#16
You forgot to say "oligarch" and "corporatist." Well done on getting "feet to the fire" in there.
Squinch
Mar 2020
#21
Sanders is causing the problem. He lost the nomination ...he should get out.
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#34
Sanders lost, the primary and that is not a disaster but a good thing as he would lose
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#45
I cant believe a person who lost all but one small caucus would not concede.
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#46
We will 1000000000000x better off with return to Obama era standards than letting trump
beachbumbob
Mar 2020
#51