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Uncle Joe

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Mon Mar 9, 2020, 05:23 PM Mar 2020

There is hard data that shows "Bernie Bros" are a myth [View all]



A computational social scientist's study shows Bernie's Twitter followers act pretty much the same as everyone else

Mainstream pundits and politicians continue to obsess over the stereotype of the "Bernie Bro," a perfervid horde of Bernie Sanders supporters who supposedly stop at nothing to harass his opponents online. Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton and New York Times columnist Bret Stephens have all helped perpetuate the idea that Sanders' supporters are somehow uniquely cruel, despite Sanders' platform and policy proposal being the most humane of all the candidates.

The only problem? The evidence that Sanders supporters are uniquely cruel online, compared to any other candidates' supporters, is scant; much of the discourse around Bernie Bros seems to rely on skewed anecdotes that don't stand up to scrutiny. Many Sanders supporters suspect that the stereotype is perpetuated in bad faith to help torpedo his candidacy.

A few weeks ago I penned a story for Salon attempting to qualitatively disprove the Bernie Bro myth by pulling from psychological theory and the nature of online behavior. To summarize my conclusions: First, there is a general tendency for online behavior to be negative, known as the online disinhibition effect — but it affects all people equally, not merely Sanders' supporters. Second, pundits systematically ignore when other candidates' supporters are mean online, perhaps because of the aforementioned established stereotype; in this sense, the Bernie Bro is not dissimilar from other political canards like the "welfare queen." Third, Twitter is not a representative sample size of the population, and is so prone to harboring propaganda outfits and bots such that it is not a reliable way of gauging public opinion.

Now, to add to this qualitative assessment, there is quantitative evidence, too — reaped from studying hundreds of thousands of interactions online — that reveals the Bernie Bro myth as, well, a myth. Jeff Winchell, a computational social scientist and graduate student at Harvard University, crunched the numbers on tweet data and found that Sanders' supporters online behave the same as everyone else. Winchell used what is called a sentiment analysis, a technique used both in the digital humanities and in e-commerce, to gauge emotional intent from social media data.

"Bernie followers act pretty much the same on Twitter as any other follower," Winchell says of his results. "There is one key difference that Twitter users and media don't seem to be aware of.... Bernie has a lot more Twitter followers than Twitter followers of other Democrat's campaigns," he added, noting that this may be partly what helps perpetuate the myth.

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https://www.salon.com/2020/03/09/there-is-hard-data-that-shows-bernie-bros-are-a-myth/



I can assure anyone here that there is one thing that is not a myth, that being the corporate media conglomerates; their obvious financial conflicts of interest and their powerful adverse affects on public perception.

The U.S. has six and by some measures only five of them that own 90+% of everything the American People see on T.V. hear on the radio or read in publications.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_of_media_ownership

https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/democracyondeadline/mediaownership.html

https://www.webfx.com/blog/internet/the-6-companies-that-own-almost-all-media-infographic/
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Kickin' Faux pas Mar 2020 #1
Yawn. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #2
Biden Bro much? LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #30
I've never attacked you. Why are you attacking me? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #35
Your post was the same kind of snark from the sidelines Bernie Bros use. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #37
Oh, you're very wrong. But, because you disagree with me, you feel entitled to insult me? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #41
You are wrong. ehrnst Mar 2020 #47
Even if what you say is true NYMinute Mar 2020 #48
Snark is the equivelent of a pun Buzz cook Mar 2020 #52
So all comedians are belittling their subjects? NYMinute Mar 2020 #73
Some are Buzz cook Mar 2020 #85
I think that poster was saying that the bro's R B Garr Mar 2020 #75
It's quite ironic that you are concerned about snark. R B Garr Mar 2020 #71
I guess it'll be AUTUMN or later before you decide to reply, eh? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #91
Biden Bro much? stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #77
I sincerely wish you did not post my Senator... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #80
The author, Keith Spencer, is himself a bro NYMinute Mar 2020 #3
Nothing like invalidating an entire argument with one tweet. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #9
Oops mcar Mar 2020 #11
lol Busted. Cha Mar 2020 #38
"It's a conspiracy, I tells ya!" From the same author... lapucelle Mar 2020 #64
And how is that tweet Buzz cook Mar 2020 #54
He tweets under his own name so he keeps it controlled NYMinute Mar 2020 #72
Is bias supporting your own candidate then? Buzz cook Mar 2020 #86
lol nt. BootinUp Mar 2020 #60
The Hoarse Whisperer has some good comments on this bernie bro Gothmog Mar 2020 #93
From Salon. The outlet that published HA Goodman all through 2015 and 2016...nt SidDithers Mar 2020 #4
HAHAHAHA Goodman decided to take a sabbatical this time around it seems NYMinute Mar 2020 #8
He's a Republican now I think ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #10
Drink! Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #14
Not much has changed. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #49
And they would've gotten away with it, if it wasn't for that rotten H.A. Goodman! Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #65
Was that supposed to be witty? TwilightZone Mar 2020 #66
"Everyone's an asshole" isn't much of a defense. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #5
When a once top tier candidate EW, gives an hr interview and talks 1st hand of all the hate Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #24
Agreed. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #26
So is the idea that he has wide appeal and can unify the party. Renew Deal Mar 2020 #6
Do you go on Twitter? nolabear Mar 2020 #7
So, David Sirota and Cenk don't exist? :) nt Sloumeau Mar 2020 #12
Only as two points on a very long line. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #15
Nor Bri Bri and the new hire that called Michelle ugly. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #18
I would have believed its a myth but I know several Bernie bros Happyhippychick Mar 2020 #13
I know one in RL, too. He lives up to the stereotype and then some. yardwork Mar 2020 #61
Bernie Bros exist and I had to deal with them at the National Convention Gothmog Mar 2020 #16
++++++thanks for this, Goth. I don't know why we have R B Garr Mar 2020 #70
Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Mar 2020 #81
+1. So have I dalton99a Mar 2020 #74
Bernie Bros exist in the real world Gothmog Mar 2020 #82
bernie's lifetime of attacking democrats and the democratic party is well documented history nt msongs Mar 2020 #17
Bernie's staff retweets them showblue22 Mar 2020 #19
I call it Bernie World, and it encompasses all the online trash talkers BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #20
Interesting Post Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #21
One only needs to go to DU to see this play out. Dustlawyer Mar 2020 #40
DU isn't representative of the real world. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #42
Whose "hard data" is this? gollygee Mar 2020 #22
then maybe dont center your campaign on twitter/social media. mopinko Mar 2020 #23
I've been pointing this out here for some time lambchopp59 Mar 2020 #25
. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #27
Denying the problem is part of the problem. NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #28
With all the bigotry I've witnessed from the Bros ... nolawarlock Mar 2020 #29
A Bro saying it ain't so about Bernie Bros grantcart Mar 2020 #31
Who actually cares at this point? The race is over, Bernie should snap out of denial and drop out. tritsofme Mar 2020 #32
I can listen to an online blogger or Senator Warren... brooklynite Mar 2020 #33
Bernie is doing a great job in his townhall right now! BeckyDem Mar 2020 #34
I missed the beginning but caught a little over half of it Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #36
Those people booing and disrupting at the 2016 convention? frazzled Mar 2020 #39
I was there in person Gothmog Mar 2020 #43
Kind of selectively targeted frazzled Mar 2020 #45
The Clinton campaign was expecting some floor votes and had a whipping infrastructure in place Gothmog Mar 2020 #46
LOL! MineralMan Mar 2020 #44
Very similar to the Magots rufus dog Mar 2020 #50
Yeah, I'm watching that "myth" disrupt Joe's rally again and again and again tonight. nolabear Mar 2020 #51
This! mcar Mar 2020 #57
You seriously believe your lying eyes? Hav Mar 2020 #63
Bernie bros. I don't think they exist... SidDithers Mar 2020 #53
Biden Bros that would be inconceivable Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #58
Biden Bros... SidDithers Mar 2020 #62
I was at the huge 15,000 rally in Chicago this weekend... Peregrine Took Mar 2020 #55
Thanks for sharing Peregrine Took. Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #59
Nope. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #79
and there are sightings proving they are. nt William769 Mar 2020 #56
"The "Bernie Bro" is a stereotype -- but the "dirtbag left" is real" TwilightZone Mar 2020 #67
Another non-existent Bernie bro being thrown out of a Biden event Gothmog Mar 2020 #68
It's a problem for Bernie. TDale313 Mar 2020 #69
ive seen them with mine own eyes samnsara Mar 2020 #76
I came across three of this past Friday while on a CTA bus carlvsam Mar 2020 #83
good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #78
I'm a software architect and data scientist, and this is EXACTLY what happened Steven Maurer Mar 2020 #84
I think the proper term is "data mining ..." (nt) carlvsam Mar 2020 #88
Nope - denial of reality n/t FreeState Mar 2020 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #89
I have met them for five years. I know better. LizBeth Mar 2020 #90
Bernie Bros and Bitter Beckies exist and are not nice people Gothmog Mar 2020 #92
"Hard data"? Hard data proving something doesn't exist? Seems odd. George II Mar 2020 #94
K&R Doremus Mar 2020 #95
MSNBC Says Chris Jansing 'Felt Threatened' By Bernie Supporter Gothmog Mar 2020 #96
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