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Yavin4

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81. You're focusing on one election. One data point and missing the larger issue.

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:13 PM

Jun 2016

Bash Hillary all you want, but neither Hillary, Barack, DWS, the DNC, the DLC, nor the corp. media is the problem. I know. It's difficult for some people to look at the data trends over multiple decades and multiple election cycles and see the results for what they are. I know. It's easier to believe in conspiracies or cabals or some secret organization.

Fact of the matter is, that since the 1964's Civil Rights Act and the 1968 convention, White working class, non-educated males have voted against Democratic candidates, including very liberal/progressives ones, in local, state, and national elections unlike the working classes in other racial demos.

That's the issue. That's problem. Until you can accept that, no progress will be made.

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'poorsplaining' [View all] Dragonfli Jun 2016 OP

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HEY! yuiyoshida Jun 2016 #106

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You got it. Well said Dragonfli. jalan48 Jun 2016 #3

Thank you for this post me b zola Jun 2016 #4

It's the modern version of let them eat cake. zeemike Jun 2016 #13

Let them eat pragmatism and you only that after you submit. Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #36

Kicked and recommended to the Max! nt Enthusiast Jun 2016 #5

Well to be fair we are in some views the "undeserving" poor. We brought it on ourselves, you see. Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #6

You forgot the sarcasm emoji. KPN Jun 2016 #21

I would not assume that was sarcasm because Pakhet Jun 2016 #64

ditto, tey relatives say I'm a "Outlander". saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #71

I expect those who read my comments to think about them. The sarcasm speaks for itself IMO. Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #48

k & r Punx Jun 2016 #7

Spot-on Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Jun 2016 #8

Then convince poor White working class Americans to vote for progressive politicians across all... Yavin4 Jun 2016 #9

It's not just poor white working class Americans.. whathehell Jun 2016 #15

Establishment Dems have bought into the line that because Republicans win in those states, Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2016 #16

Yup. Somebody has to start the fight. Well said. It's about time Democrats stopped LuckyLib Jun 2016 #70

Ummm ... there's a bit of bullshit in your response. Be honest. KPN Jun 2016 #20

Where? Look at the WI Governor recall vote. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #31

Okay, maybe I misinterpreted you. KPN Jun 2016 #33

DU aint the problem. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #41

+1000 nt abelenkpe Jun 2016 #83

I know someone who had a different take on the Wisconsin recall election Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2016 #68

With 20-20 hindsight, it's easy to see that state party Chair Mike Tate, either intentionally ... Scuba Jun 2016 #103

Yes, that's how it looked from my vantage point on the other side of the river Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2016 #108

You think it's only poor whites who vote against their economic self-interest? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #30

Nope. African Americans, Latinos, Asians, and most other racial and ethnic groups Yavin4 Jun 2016 #32

No they really don't. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #40

Again, explain WI. Explain the KY Governor's race. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #43

yet the "progressive" democrat that does not support $15/minimum and does not support single payer magical thyme Jun 2016 #52

It's more than that... malokvale77 Jun 2016 #85

so your premise is that KS is going broke because it's a 'white' state? got news azurnoir Jun 2016 #80

And then there's Texas, which is majority nonwhite and... Texas Scootaloo Jun 2016 #92

Yes, and Texas offers a good example of a tone-deaf Dem candidate Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2016 #93

Hog-wash. malokvale77 Jun 2016 #86

Nope. African Americans, Latinos, Asians, and most other racial and ethnic groups... AlbertCat Jun 2016 #95

Thank you Scootaloo!! haikugal Jun 2016 #46

A thousand times yes! malokvale77 Jun 2016 #87

Democrats like Payday Debbie are progressive? arikara Jun 2016 #45

The Dems. in the WI state legislature fled the state to prevent a vote abolishing collective... Yavin4 Jun 2016 #49

lacks the data to support it. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #96

Many people don't get the chance to vote for progressive politicians nxylas Jun 2016 #72

The people in WI had a clear opportunity to show support for unions and collective bargaining Yavin4 Jun 2016 #79

WI does not represent the entire country. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #97

Being in Texas, I know what you say is a fact. malokvale77 Jun 2016 #89

The issue is with those among us that support Corporate profits over rhett o rick Jun 2016 #75

You're focusing on one election. One data point and missing the larger issue. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #81

White working class, non-educated males have voted against Democratic candidates, AlbertCat Jun 2016 #98

b/c inciting racial animus is so much more rational nashville_brook Jun 2016 #99

There is a grotesque angle on race-baiting DirkGently Jun 2016 #101

+10000 nashville_brook Jun 2016 #107

Well said. Thank you. Harriety Jun 2016 #10

every now and then somone nails it enuf to build a damn house and that how you nailed it dembotoz Jun 2016 #11

+1 *sigh* dchill Jun 2016 #12

Shameful in a zentrum Jun 2016 #14

Awesome Dragonfli angrychair Jun 2016 #17

Well said. GoneFishin Jun 2016 #18

Most excellent Rap Dragonfli! KPN Jun 2016 #19

Don't Go Quietly..... scottie55 Jun 2016 #22

Thank you Dragonfli felix_numinous Jun 2016 #23

+1 Left Brain Jun 2016 #55

Excellent post dragonfli! lonestarnot Jun 2016 #24

Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I do not know jwirr Jun 2016 #25

K&R NikolaC Jun 2016 #26

Thank you! redwitch Jun 2016 #27

Looking at some of the responses zalinda Jun 2016 #28

I think I know why we (even those of us who were poor) were jwirr Jun 2016 #34