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jwirr

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34. I think I know why we (even those of us who were poor) were
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:50 AM
Jun 2016

so fooled by Bill Clinton. Before 1980 we pretty much had a party that could be trusted to represent us. We were still living by the values of the party of FDR.

Then we found ourselves in the nightmare of raygun and trickle down. We understood we did not want anymore Rs.

When Bill Clinton the smooth talker came along we THOUGHT that he is a Democrat. We trusted him because of that and he used the same old slogans. We thought we were getting the old party back in power. We did not for the most part see the pictures of him setting with GHW Bush and George Wallace. We also did not see the pictures of him and the southern governors standing with their backs turned to the black prisoners as they promised to be tough on crime. And we absolutely did not understand the use of dog whistles. We were completely fooled and many of us also never realized that everything had changed. That the party was no longer on our side.

Many of us are just now learning what Bill and Hillary and all of our traitor congress persons are doing to us.

We are no longer fools - our eyes are open.

'poorsplaining' [View all] Dragonfli Jun 2016 OP
... Autumn Jun 2016 #1
... Dragonfli Jun 2016 #2
HEY! yuiyoshida Jun 2016 #106
... Dragonfli Jun 2016 #109
You got it. Well said Dragonfli. jalan48 Jun 2016 #3
Thank you for this post me b zola Jun 2016 #4
It's the modern version of let them eat cake. zeemike Jun 2016 #13
Let them eat pragmatism and you only that after you submit. Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #36
Kicked and recommended to the Max! nt Enthusiast Jun 2016 #5
Well to be fair we are in some views the "undeserving" poor. We brought it on ourselves, you see. Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #6
You forgot the sarcasm emoji. KPN Jun 2016 #21
I would not assume that was sarcasm because Pakhet Jun 2016 #64
ditto, tey relatives say I'm a "Outlander". saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #71
I expect those who read my comments to think about them. The sarcasm speaks for itself IMO. Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #48
k & r Punx Jun 2016 #7
Spot-on Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Jun 2016 #8
Then convince poor White working class Americans to vote for progressive politicians across all... Yavin4 Jun 2016 #9
It's not just poor white working class Americans.. whathehell Jun 2016 #15
Establishment Dems have bought into the line that because Republicans win in those states, Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2016 #16
Yup. Somebody has to start the fight. Well said. It's about time Democrats stopped LuckyLib Jun 2016 #70
Ummm ... there's a bit of bullshit in your response. Be honest. KPN Jun 2016 #20
Where? Look at the WI Governor recall vote. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #31
Okay, maybe I misinterpreted you. KPN Jun 2016 #33
DU aint the problem. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #41
+1000 nt abelenkpe Jun 2016 #83
I know someone who had a different take on the Wisconsin recall election Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2016 #68
With 20-20 hindsight, it's easy to see that state party Chair Mike Tate, either intentionally ... Scuba Jun 2016 #103
Yes, that's how it looked from my vantage point on the other side of the river Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2016 #108
You think it's only poor whites who vote against their economic self-interest? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #30
Nope. African Americans, Latinos, Asians, and most other racial and ethnic groups Yavin4 Jun 2016 #32
No they really don't. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #40
Again, explain WI. Explain the KY Governor's race. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #43
yet the "progressive" democrat that does not support $15/minimum and does not support single payer magical thyme Jun 2016 #52
It's more than that... malokvale77 Jun 2016 #85
so your premise is that KS is going broke because it's a 'white' state? got news azurnoir Jun 2016 #80
And then there's Texas, which is majority nonwhite and... Texas Scootaloo Jun 2016 #92
Yes, and Texas offers a good example of a tone-deaf Dem candidate Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2016 #93
Hog-wash. malokvale77 Jun 2016 #86
Nope. African Americans, Latinos, Asians, and most other racial and ethnic groups... AlbertCat Jun 2016 #95
Thank you Scootaloo!! haikugal Jun 2016 #46
A thousand times yes! malokvale77 Jun 2016 #87
Democrats like Payday Debbie are progressive? arikara Jun 2016 #45
The Dems. in the WI state legislature fled the state to prevent a vote abolishing collective... Yavin4 Jun 2016 #49
lacks the data to support it. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #96
Many people don't get the chance to vote for progressive politicians nxylas Jun 2016 #72
The people in WI had a clear opportunity to show support for unions and collective bargaining Yavin4 Jun 2016 #79
WI does not represent the entire country. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #97
Being in Texas, I know what you say is a fact. malokvale77 Jun 2016 #89
The issue is with those among us that support Corporate profits over rhett o rick Jun 2016 #75
You're focusing on one election. One data point and missing the larger issue. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #81
White working class, non-educated males have voted against Democratic candidates, AlbertCat Jun 2016 #98
b/c inciting racial animus is so much more rational nashville_brook Jun 2016 #99
There is a grotesque angle on race-baiting DirkGently Jun 2016 #101
+10000 nashville_brook Jun 2016 #107
Well said. Thank you. Harriety Jun 2016 #10
every now and then somone nails it enuf to build a damn house and that how you nailed it dembotoz Jun 2016 #11
+1 *sigh* dchill Jun 2016 #12
Shameful in a zentrum Jun 2016 #14
Awesome Dragonfli angrychair Jun 2016 #17
Well said. GoneFishin Jun 2016 #18
Most excellent Rap Dragonfli! KPN Jun 2016 #19
Don't Go Quietly..... scottie55 Jun 2016 #22
Thank you Dragonfli felix_numinous Jun 2016 #23
+1 Left Brain Jun 2016 #55
Excellent post dragonfli! lonestarnot Jun 2016 #24
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I do not know jwirr Jun 2016 #25
K&R NikolaC Jun 2016 #26
Thank you! redwitch Jun 2016 #27
Looking at some of the responses zalinda Jun 2016 #28
I think I know why we (even those of us who were poor) were jwirr Jun 2016 #34
more on voting w0nderer Jun 2016 #37
I thought about saying that zalinda Jun 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author The Green Manalishi Jun 2016 #74
Thanks for this post Dragonfli Scootaloo Jun 2016 #29
Nicely said. And I feel for this. And THIS seems like a reality I can easily recognize. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #35
K&R!!!! Phlem Jun 2016 #38
Thanks for posting it separately w0nderer Jun 2016 #39
The invisibilization and marginalization of the poor ... ananda Jun 2016 #42
So.... voting for Trump if Hillary makes it???? NotHardly Jun 2016 #44
Where did you pull that out of? I didn't see it anywhere in this thread...oh, I see, you made it up haikugal Jun 2016 #50
So you got that from the OP? Did you even bother to read it? Or did it just touch a nerve? BillZBubb Jun 2016 #84
Thank you for another excellent OP, well done!!! K&R!! haikugal Jun 2016 #51
K&R stage left Jun 2016 #53
Well Said! Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #54
Exactly! Duppers Jun 2016 #112
Righteously and beautifully stated, Dragonfli Left Brain Jun 2016 #56
K&R.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #57
K&R azmom Jun 2016 #58
Bravo Dragonfli!! DebbieCDC Jun 2016 #59
Yeah I work 7 days a week.. ymetca Jun 2016 #60
K&R ReRe Jun 2016 #61
I was poor all my working life. I was homeless once and hungry a lot. Warpy Jun 2016 #62
Thank you. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #63
I'm retired. It wasn't until I started canvassing for Bernie that I realized JDPriestly Jun 2016 #65
One bad transmission shadowmayor Jun 2016 #66
The house servants of the rich. Volaris Jun 2016 #67
Clinton's voters are going to be those with absolutely nothing to worry about in their lives MisterP Jun 2016 #69
Dragonfli Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2016 #73
K and R and Spirochete Jun 2016 #76
DURec leftstreet Jun 2016 #77
Damned straight! Maedhros Jun 2016 #78
How do we get the old band back together? I am sick of this Third Way shit and its apologists. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #82
It's because many DUers do not really care how people are doing, it's the perception they care abt MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jun 2016 #90
I'm sorry to hear about your friend Politicub Jun 2016 #91
dragonfli you are awesome undergroundpanther Jun 2016 #94
You could see and sense the divide widening years ago, now it is being felt by more people ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #100
Dragonfil soaring high! PuraVidaDreamin Jun 2016 #102
Great OP. Cogent and correct. Thanks Dragonfli. Scuba Jun 2016 #104
oh, c'mon. everything's hunky-dory. there are long lines at the theaters in Manhattan! KG Jun 2016 #105
K&R on behalf of Third Way Manny LiberalElite Jun 2016 #110
K & R mountain grammy Jun 2016 #111
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