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djean111

(14,255 posts)
25. I think that ridiculous and self-serving meme got started when some criticized a politician(s)
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:26 AM
May 2015

actions or non-actions on economic issues and the pretty much unvarying response was "BUT DOMA!!!!!, as if we of course had to have a Sophie's Choice when it comes to economic and social issues. As if we could only have one or the other, as if the politician in question was forced to only address one or the other. For one of the current presidential nominee candidates, any sort of criticism/question about support of, say, the TPP, or cluster bombs, for example, is met with cries of "BUT WOMEN'S AND CHILDREN'S RIGHTS!!!!!!" and a list of utterances. I get the feeling that a politician could openly advocate for slashing Social Security in half, and the response of some would be "but DADT!!!!!".

What you are describing is classic misdirection. IMO it is a deliberate smokescreen for the open Third Way tactic of being liberal on social issues (because they don't cost much and can be used to divide or as campaign fodder) and being deeply Republican Conservative on economic issues.

After lying about TPP job losses, for example, GOP and some "Dem" legislators submit something that says yeah, Americans will lose their jobs, but we will take money out of Medicare to retrain them. Not out of the MIC Monster, but out of Medicare. Maybe there is some truth in "Keep your government hands out of my Medicare!" after all.

And Obama would certainly sign that. And any criticism would be meant with "but DOMA!!!!" or "women and children's rights!!!!" - oh, yes, women and children will be just as adversely affected by the TPP, by cluster bombs, by slave wages.

What you are seeing and experiencing is, IMO, Third Way claptrap designed to throw a smokescreen over the tightening grasp of wealthy corporations and Wall Street and the 1% over economic issues.



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h*mj****n posts similar OPs in the HRC room. delrem May 2015 #1
Exactly and we'd like to feed you and not have you work 80 hr weeks Phlem May 2015 #12
So we can focus on policy to get it done. Right? delrem May 2015 #14
yep. Phlem May 2015 #16
Yes, that's what I meant delrem May 2015 #17
Our heroes, Sanders and Warren, have better records on social issues than "The" candidate. NYC_SKP May 2015 #2
Blame the Third Way. TM99 May 2015 #3
+1 You nailed it. Enthusiast May 2015 #22
Why so argumentative? murielm99 May 2015 #4
I've been getting blasted for stuff the "populist" group supposedly said, that's why. Ken Burch May 2015 #8
I would argue that the fault is not with members of this group, or the existence of the group. NYC_SKP May 2015 #10
In your mind, that requires me to defend myself against false accusations to you why? merrily May 2015 #15
I'm not even a member of this group. murielm99 May 2015 #18
I guess I did sound angry. Ken Burch May 2015 #19
Well.... the curse in the title...nt LiberalElite May 2015 #28
You'll notice that I did it as a "Sgt. Snorkel"-style comic strip "curse". n/t. Ken Burch May 2015 #29
Bingo. You nailed it. Paka May 2015 #27
The only thing i'm aware of is a belief that Jackpine Radical May 2015 #5
+1 delrem May 2015 #7
It's a shitty fake meme Scootaloo May 2015 #6
It's a totally dishonest attack. TDale313 May 2015 #9
I don't know any political or philosophical school of thought that is more egalitarian than what whereisjustice May 2015 #11
It's utter BS. Ask for links. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #13
Let me get this straight: People falsely associated you with this group, so you assumed their merrily May 2015 #20
No...I'm trying to figure out what got this started. n/t. Ken Burch May 2015 #21
Some posters on political message boards have agendas other than posting as a hobby and some are merrily May 2015 #23
It was started by New Dems TM99 May 2015 #24
I think that ridiculous and self-serving meme got started when some criticized a politician(s) djean111 May 2015 #25
That social and economic justice issues are all intertwined. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #26
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