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TM99

(8,352 posts)
24. It was started by New Dems
Wed May 27, 2015, 05:23 AM
May 2015

and actually quite a while ago.

They ultimately lie when it comes to social liberalism and justice. They will talk about support for LGBT individuals and yet it was New Dems with the help of the GOP who started DOMA and DADT. It took them decades to 'evolve' and finally look to over-turning those.

They will talk about social justice for persons of color and yet look at cities like Detroit that were devastated economically by Neo-Liberal New Dem economic policies in the form of NAFTA. And they want to do it again with the TPP.

They will talk about securing Roe v Wade and a woman's right to choose an abortion, but then we get a watered down insurance mandate with so many loop holes in it States and corporations are able to find work arounds that penalize all of us.

They have been so focused on Democrats winning at all costs that they compromised traditional progressive FDR style principles for those wins. And honestly, they are not wins. There are many more losses. Most state governments are in GOP hands and it is not just from gerrymandering. When they run as Republican lite like Alison Grimes did, they lose because Truman was dead on right about electing a 'real' Republican over a DINO acting like one every time.

When your position is one of triangulation, you are bound to be perceived as incongruent and inconsistent. This really won't end until Dems elect someone like Sanders and the New Dems like Clinton, Obama, and HRC are soundly defeated within the party.

h*mj****n posts similar OPs in the HRC room. delrem May 2015 #1
Exactly and we'd like to feed you and not have you work 80 hr weeks Phlem May 2015 #12
So we can focus on policy to get it done. Right? delrem May 2015 #14
yep. Phlem May 2015 #16
Yes, that's what I meant delrem May 2015 #17
Our heroes, Sanders and Warren, have better records on social issues than "The" candidate. NYC_SKP May 2015 #2
Blame the Third Way. TM99 May 2015 #3
+1 You nailed it. Enthusiast May 2015 #22
Why so argumentative? murielm99 May 2015 #4
I've been getting blasted for stuff the "populist" group supposedly said, that's why. Ken Burch May 2015 #8
I would argue that the fault is not with members of this group, or the existence of the group. NYC_SKP May 2015 #10
In your mind, that requires me to defend myself against false accusations to you why? merrily May 2015 #15
I'm not even a member of this group. murielm99 May 2015 #18
I guess I did sound angry. Ken Burch May 2015 #19
Well.... the curse in the title...nt LiberalElite May 2015 #28
You'll notice that I did it as a "Sgt. Snorkel"-style comic strip "curse". n/t. Ken Burch May 2015 #29
Bingo. You nailed it. Paka May 2015 #27
The only thing i'm aware of is a belief that Jackpine Radical May 2015 #5
+1 delrem May 2015 #7
It's a shitty fake meme Scootaloo May 2015 #6
It's a totally dishonest attack. TDale313 May 2015 #9
I don't know any political or philosophical school of thought that is more egalitarian than what whereisjustice May 2015 #11
It's utter BS. Ask for links. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #13
Let me get this straight: People falsely associated you with this group, so you assumed their merrily May 2015 #20
No...I'm trying to figure out what got this started. n/t. Ken Burch May 2015 #21
Some posters on political message boards have agendas other than posting as a hobby and some are merrily May 2015 #23
It was started by New Dems TM99 May 2015 #24
I think that ridiculous and self-serving meme got started when some criticized a politician(s) djean111 May 2015 #25
That social and economic justice issues are all intertwined. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #26
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