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merrily

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19. Republicans put a lot of emphasis on having been a Governor and/or a member of the military.
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:31 AM
May 2015

And, for some reason, Republican values seem to spread.

However, if you look at lists of the ten best Presidents in US history about whom historians from both sides agree, being a Governor (or executive in the private sector) is no guaranty of being a good President.

As for being VP, Truman, like a lot of Vice Presidents, was kept out of the loop. So far, in Truman's case that he did not know of the Manhattan Project until after FDR died--even though FDR was terminally ill and the nation was at war. LBJ, as huge and experienced a personality as he was, was kept out of the loop by JFK. And so on.

The two Presidents who faced the greatest challenges were probably Washington and Lincoln. Lincoln didn't even make it to U.S. I think he had a term as Congressman.

One Republican on another board argued that Lincoln had military service (militia). Googling led me to Lincoln's own account of his military service, the sum total of which had been standing in a field for three hours doing nothing, then going home.

I very much resist formulae. They may help get someone elected. However, the more important consideration for the nation is what happens after Inauguration Day. Yes, I know you have to get elected first.

But, rather than reinforce the validity of a formula, maybe we should reinforce that the best Presidents in history have not fit neatly into one category or another.

Truman, for example, failed at just about every career he attempted, except for President of the United States, where he makes both Republican and Democratic best lists. And, no, I am not advocating finding people who have failed at everything. I'm just saying, using a formula is no guaranty of a good President and may do us out of some great Presidents

I should note that none of the above is intended to detract from O'Malley. It's just a general point.

As things now stand, if for any reason, O'Malley is in the primary longer than Bernie, I may well support O'Malley.

Why Not Martin O'Malley? [View all] Raine1967 May 2015 OP
Good to see it here, Raine. elleng May 2015 #1
I met Gov O'Malley last summer when he was campaigning Peacetrain May 2015 #2
I met him this spring, and he impressed me as well. Raine1967 May 2015 #3
I hope so Raine! Peacetrain May 2015 #4
because he is not an announced candidate for anything? nt msongs May 2015 #5
He will be announcing on May 30. HE has leased space as a campaign HQ. Raine1967 May 2015 #7
My question would be, what does he bring to the table that Bernie doesn't? Jester Messiah May 2015 #6
here is a good article about him: Raine1967 May 2015 #8
If you want to find out more about O'Malley, go to the O'Malley Group. Koinos May 2015 #9
He has executive experience, which the voters seem to value. Jim Lane May 2015 #10
Republicans put a lot of emphasis on having been a Governor and/or a member of the military. merrily May 2015 #19
It's not just Republicans. Jim Lane May 2015 #21
I know it's not just Republicans, but they tend to emphasize gubernatorial and merrily May 2015 #22
Our media is such a huge part of the problem! CrispyQ May 2015 #11
When I think back to the 2008 POTUS campaign coverage (meaning even before 2008) Raine1967 May 2015 #12
I don't think O'Malley will be ignored by the media. Koinos May 2015 #13
Case in point, CrispyQ - WSJ: "Hillary vs. 19 Republicans" 5/20/15 RiverLover May 2015 #25
Thanks Raine! demwing May 2015 #14
To play devil's advocate swilton May 2015 #15
Was that why he was elected twice as governor? Raine1967 May 2015 #16
The poll was recent - within the past couple of months swilton May 2015 #17
O'Malley was re-elected Governor in 2010 by a wider margin demwing May 2015 #18
In this forum, posters discuss candidates, including Hillary, freely. merrily May 2015 #20
O'Malley's problem is finding space between Sanders and Clinton. geek tragedy May 2015 #23
You make valid points. Raine1967 May 2015 #24
It's also hard to reconcile his support for Clinton in the 2008 Campaign swilton May 2015 #26
Failed to mention Bernie Sanders INdemo May 2015 #27
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