Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

jeff47

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5. To bad no government program has ever changed after it was first passed.

Sat Nov 15, 2014, 07:05 PM

Nov 2014

Oh wait....every single one has.

Wanna fix this:

Let's look at one facet of what the public wanted and then explained that they wanted in almost every poll taken between 2008 and Dec 2009, an important facet that was not realized - the public option.

Then start working on your state to offer it. The law does not require that every insurance program on your state's exchange be private. And with no need to profit, a public option should easily out-compete the private options.

Yes, we people in "red" states aren't going to get very far for the time being. But we're counting on you blue state residents to keep pushing forward. And lots of you (Hello, California) do not need any Republican votes to do it.

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Understanding the Corporate Welfare Giveaway known as the ACA... [View all] truedelphi Nov 2014 OP

K&R nt Mnemosyne Nov 2014 #1

K&R peacebird Nov 2014 #2

K & R L0oniX Nov 2014 #3

The things health insurance industry had, that the government did not and GOP would not approve Hoyt Nov 2014 #4

Although I find logical the majority of yr post , the end statement truedelphi Nov 2014 #13

I hear you, but here's the thing. You can buy health insurance that covers any hospital, Hoyt Nov 2014 #16

Well, as I understand it, when the Government administers Medicaid, the overhead is 3%. But now that sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #25

Government doesn't administer most of Medicare, private insurance companies do. Hoyt Nov 2014 #26

Dems defect because of weak leadership. That should not happen if we had strong Democratic sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #27

I wish you success in straightening the mess out with all your answers. Hoyt Nov 2014 #28

The answer is obvious. The Dem Party needs to represent the people who elect them. sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #29

Exactly just like Social Security has a low overhead (6% I think). And they want to privatize that jwirr Nov 2014 #50

My daughter has been on Medicaid for many years and here in MN it has almost always been jwirr Nov 2014 #48

To bad no government program has ever changed after it was first passed. jeff47 Nov 2014 #5

Oh btw BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #6

There's talk of the governor re-entrenching. jeff47 Nov 2014 #12

Except I wasn't arguing that position BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #17

healthcare without profit?! redruddyred Nov 2014 #8

heritage care does not need to "change". it needs to be undone. Doctor_J Nov 2014 #19

That is what people are doing now. Realizing they have no voice in DC, people are focusing on sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #30

In this I and my family are some of the luckiest people in the world. MN has MNCare. Most of us opt jwirr Nov 2014 #49

the ACA was definitely a compromise redruddyred Nov 2014 #7

The first step is to end corporate brainwashing -- aka consolidated media propaganda RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #10

Corporate brainwashing. I absolutely agree. Maineman Nov 2014 #20

Close to 90 percent of Californians supported GMO labeling at the outset RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #23

oh that's such a shame redruddyred Nov 2014 #57

The problem is that what little media we do have are know only by people like us. The closest we jwirr Nov 2014 #51

Start with Pacifica RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #52

Okay that is a start but how do we get the ordinary voter to listen to them? I considerate it an jwirr Nov 2014 #53

The people DID vote, in 2008. Did you forget that we worked hard and WON? There was a mandate sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #31

It looked like this.... Enthusiast Nov 2014 #36

I remember, Dems had so much support to do what needed to be done as fast as they could. sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #39

Just imagine how effective a bully pulpit could have been at that moment. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #42

Yes, completely squandered. The question is 'why'? sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #44

I won't say it. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #45

Good post (nt) Babel_17 Nov 2014 #38

and yet it passed the senate by a single vote. redruddyred Nov 2014 #58

K & R. Totally agree with the quote about the public option, too. RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #9

The politics of fear. 'Let's not try something because they will destroy it even if we succeed.' sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #40

How did you figure to get it through Congress otherwise? aquart Nov 2014 #11

How did FDR get the legislation he wanted passed to go truedelphi Nov 2014 #14

FDR's congress was LOADED with Democrats. There simply is no comparison. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #24

You are re-writing history. Obama got in back in 2008, and was inaugurated in 2009. truedelphi Nov 2014 #32

Exactly, and I remember Jan, 2008. There were high hopes that Dems would move swiftly on sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #37

Thank you, truedelphi. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #35

And Enthusiast, thank you too. I was actually a bit truedelphi Nov 2014 #56

d'you think obama could've been elected redruddyred Nov 2014 #59

Obama = Goldman Sachs. truedelphi Nov 2014 #63

opensecrets says that UC was his biggest donor. redruddyred Nov 2014 #64

Until two years ago, Richard Blum, Sen Di Feinstein's husband, truedelphi Nov 2014 #65

Did any Republicans vote for the ACA? sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #41

Correct and it also involves having the facts at hand and making sure they are the right facts. From jwirr Nov 2014 #47

By Democrats simply doing their job. When I don't do my job, I get fired. Zorra Nov 2014 #62

I highly recommend Wendell Potter's 'Deadly Spin' on the subject. n/t Triana Nov 2014 #15

Me too! Maineman Nov 2014 #21

Corporations are always going to make out like bandits. I would rather have them make out while kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #18

That's one of the main reasons for starting this group— Enthusiast Nov 2014 #34

And I would rather we stop them from making out like bandits, which is what they are. And helping sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #43

The exact plan that the fascists rolled out in 1994 Doctor_J Nov 2014 #22

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #33

No real arguement. However I think the Medicaid expansion is a real positive. Many of the people jwirr Nov 2014 #46

Here is why, jwirr truedelphi Nov 2014 #54

I had forgotten that aspect. Now I understand. My reasoning was that Medicaid pays for everything jwirr Nov 2014 #55

Kicked & Reed /nt demwing Nov 2014 #60

Kicked for visability /nt demwing Nov 2014 #61