Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Populist Reform of the Democratic Party
In reply to the discussion: Mark, did she answer all the questions out there with her news conference this week? [View all]whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)32. Bullshit. She did something wrong! You sound like Goldman Sachs defending mortgage fraud
Tell me what is morally and ethically correct about her behavior? Every low level Govt. employee would get reprimanded for running heir own email server for official business.
Stop defending the morally and ethically bankrupt elite political class from the same rules that the 100s of millions of people have to follow.
Just goes to show how low Democratic Party has fallen. You should be ashamed for defending the practice of "self-regulation" just like the Republicans. On the right-wing wing detecto-meter you are pegging it.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-emails-timeline-rules-allegedly/story?id=29442707
2000
Hillary Clinton was recorded telling a donor that she didn't like using email.
Home video footage from 2000, shot at a fundraiser by a donor, Peter Paul, showed then-Sen. Clinton talking about how she had chosen to avoid email for fear of leaving a paper trail.
"As much as Ive been investigated and all of that, you know, why would I?-- I dont even want-- Why would I ever want to do e-mail?" Clinton said.
"Can you imagine?" she asked.
2005
The Foreign Affairs Manual was codified by the State Department, which ruled in 2005 that employees could only use private email accounts for official business if they turned those emails over to be entered into government computers.
That ruling also forbade State Department employees from including "sensitive but unclassified" information on private email, except for some very narrow exceptions.
2007
In the midst of the 2008 presidential race, Clinton took a jab at the Bush administration's use of non-governmental email accounts.
"Our Constitution is being shredded. We know about the secret wiretaps. We know about secret military tribunals, the secret White House email accounts," Clinton said in a 2007 campaign speech.
2008
Much of the mystery surrounding Clintons emails came from the fact that an IP address associated with the clintonemail.com domain she is believed to have used was registered to a person named Eric Hoteham on Feb. 1, 2008. No public records matching that individual can be found and it is possible that it was simply a misspelling of the name Eric Hothem, a former aide to Clinton while she was first lady. An Eric Hothem is now listed as an employee at JP Morgan in Washington, D.C.
The IP address for clintonemail.com, along with others registered in Hotehams name, are all connected to the Clintons address in Chappaqua, New York.
2009
Justin Cooper, a longtime aide to former President Bill Clinton, registered the clintonemail.com domain on Jan. 13, a little more than a week before Hillary Clinton took office as secretary of state on Jan. 21.
It was also a year when another rule went into place regarding the use of private email. According to the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations in 2009, if an agency allows its employees to use a personal email account, it must ensure that the emails are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
114 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Mark, did she answer all the questions out there with her news conference this week? [View all]
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
OP
If by "we," you mean the Democratic Party, Hillary has been its choice, maybe since
merrily
Mar 2015
#77
100% pure echo chamber bullshit. You better give people a better reason to have only Hillary around
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#12
What a sad defense for her behavior. "We must overlook what she did so we can
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#104
It is entirely appropraite to keep the focus on the party nominee whose "they did it too"
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#11
Did the Bush WH have an offical .gov email address or did they do all of their email
RiverLover
Mar 2015
#14
Bush WH used the RNCs server for a great deal of their emails. Guess corpmedia isn't
blm
Mar 2015
#16
She made a choice - her paranoia & personal convenience was worth the damage to the Democratic Party
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#15
I said exactly why the Benghazi committee is keeping focus on HRC and her emails instead of
blm
Mar 2015
#17
The morality is simple - should she have used a private email server and allow
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#18
Answer the question. Was it moral and ethical to hide public transactions as a public official?
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#21
Does she represent the Democratic Party or herself? Was it moral or ethical?
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#23
Defending the excuse of horrible ethics and morals by claiming "everyone was doing it"
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#86
You must recognize how silly that statement really is. But I guess it's all you've
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#105
I don't buy your, "the enemy of my ememy is my friend", crap. The Republicons are stupid and
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#108
So you don't buy that people doing the exact same thing are helping each other?
Thor_MN
Mar 2015
#109
I don't buy your logic that if the Republicons don't like HRC then I must
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#110
Not unnoticed AT ALL. Democrats, including Hillary, condemned Bush the Lesser over that
merrily
Mar 2015
#79
Thanks so much for implying that I lack courage and integrity, yet without proving
merrily
Mar 2015
#114
Well fuck me for demanding our leaders behave like real people instead of prima donnas.
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#10
No, not presidential, more like Russian Emperor or Royal Monarch behavior. She is disqualified.
NYC_SKP
Mar 2015
#24
Horseshit your horseshit. Democrats acting like Republicans SUCK. Just because a douchebag like Bush
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#28
Bullshit. She did something wrong! You sound like Goldman Sachs defending mortgage fraud
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#32
No, she did nothing wrong. The archivist of the United States is satisfied with her
MADem
Mar 2015
#33
I can't "answer the question" because she did NOTHING that was immoral or unethical--or ILLEGAL.
MADem
Mar 2015
#46
Is it moral and ethical for public officials to keep public records private and decide which ones
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#47
Clinton violated record keeping regulations, where does the "national archivist" say
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#50
He said she broke no laws and violated no rules. I'll believe him before I believe
MADem
Mar 2015
#51
lmao - really? Where is this quote you are referring to? There is no such quote from national
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#52
Nope. Where does he say Hillary did nothing wrong regarding latest revelations? Waiting....
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#56
lol- using an "alias" or "multiple accounts" is absolutely not the same as a private email server
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#57
Until you provide the quote where the national archivist says Hillary did nothing wrong, you are
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#61
Where is the quote where he said Hillary did nothing wrong. I want that quote not some generic
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#68
No. You said the National Archivist said Hillary did nothing wrong. Where is that quote?
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#70
He did. In sworn testimony in 2013. You are starting to sound like a broken record.
MADem
Mar 2015
#71
I want the quote where he said Hillary did nothing wrong. You can't find it. That's because
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#72
There you go, calling me a liar AGAIN. See post 71, again, and get over yourself, again. nt
MADem
Mar 2015
#73
Do you even read what you post? He doesn't say "Hillary did nothing wrong."
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#102
He didn't say "Every government official except the SECSTATE." You're flailing. Desperate.
MADem
Mar 2015
#103
No she didn't. You are making things up. She did not copy .gov on every email. That's EXACTLY the
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#62
You attributed a quote to someone that was false. You made it up. What does that make you?
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#113
This isn't general discussion. You are in a group. Behave yourself. You've been given far more
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#63
and we'll spend every goddamn dime and every human resource cleaning up after the mess she makes...
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#31
we'll spend every last bit of political capital bailing her ass out every few months
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#48
We damn sure don't need a candidate with the same political garbage as the GOP candidate.
malokvale77
Mar 2015
#53
Thanks, The Democratic National Committee seems prepared to use every last resource not
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#87