Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

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38. That is another excellent article. Labels & Talking points are something that should be discussed

Sun Jan 11, 2015, 11:53 AM

Jan 2015

so that Liberals know how to respond to them. THEY are super organized, they have Think Tanks thinking up ways to corner people who are telling the truth, into a defensive position, making them look weak.

Liberals tend to want to explain their positions so for years we have made the mistake of responding by defending our positions. And WE have no Think Tanks coming up with these labels.

So now that we know for sure that many of the attacks on Liberals, including on THIS forum, are bought and paid for, calculated to dismiss Democratic Policies, I hope we can learn how to put THEM on the defensive.

Most of their talking points are pretty childish, but that appears to be the point. Make them short and stupid enough that to argue with them is like arguing with a two year old, all that happens is YOU look like a mom who can't handle her child.

I think there should be a lot of focus on this aspect of their tactics. It took me years to realize that these talking points were actually coming from a Think Tank.

Great post again, RiverLover.

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The Third Way: 'Why are Democrats affiliated with this group that wants to gut Democratic Programs?' [View all] sabrina 1 Jan 2015 OP

Kick! haikugal Jan 2015 #1

because they are really republican sympathizers orcloset cases? nt msongs Jan 2015 #2

I think they are moderate Republicans. On issues like women's rights etc they sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #3

+1,000 Scuba Jan 2015 #7

+1! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #9

They are "liberal" on issues that don't cost the 1% money. on all the others they are Doctor_J Jan 2015 #12

Exactly, moderate on issues that don't cost Wall St anything. What WOULD cost Wall St sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #21

It is actually a travesty that needs to be explained to the brain dead. world wide wally Jan 2015 #4

I have done that and the contrast between his focus on the needs of the PEOPLE and the current sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #22

REALLY great info, thanks! And even scarier? Third Way is just "the tip of the iceberg" RiverLover Jan 2015 #5

"largely unseen" aspirant Jan 2015 #15

Well, we've seen this a lot over the past number of years: sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #19

Great post. nm rhett o rick Jan 2015 #26

This isn't terribly difficult to understand ... Scuba Jan 2015 #6

K&R! This post should have wider exposure. And it should have hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #8

Yes, the party is fucked up. Which is why you won't see hundreds of djean111 Jan 2015 #13

In criticizing Obama aspirant Jan 2015 #16

You are just supposed to concentrate on those lollipops, as far as I can tell. djean111 Jan 2015 #18

And realize that if you don't vote, you'll just get the apples with no lollipops Doctor_J Jan 2015 #37

One reason I like the idea of this Group is that this is where these discussions should be held. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #23

Thanks, excellent article. But it doesn't appear to be by William Black. eomer Jan 2015 #10

Thank you for the correction, I will edit. I was reading Black's article at the same time, which are sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #17

Because they pretend to be Democrats. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #11

And they scream that we have to support them because we must be loyal to all Democrats. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #25

They're ex-Republicans (as is Hillary, for example) who find the current Republicans Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2015 #14

Serious points, but you still made me LOL! Thanks!! RiverLover Jan 2015 #20

You nailed it LL dflprincess Jan 2015 #28

Lol! 'The Party of Conservative People Who Don't Care Who You Sleep With'! sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #33

^^^^^^^^ DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #57

This is a great thread. One of the best I've seen in a while and not surprised it's by sabrina. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #24

Thanks rhett, but it's no longer difficult to find material on these Wall St infiltrators. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #30

Because they aren't democrats. Nt abelenkpe Jan 2015 #27

HUGE K and R bbgrunt Jan 2015 #29

Exactly. So many pieces fall into place when you learn the facts. Thankfully many people are now sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #31

K&R! blackspade Jan 2015 #32

Good post/framing of events K&R (nt) Babel_17 Jan 2015 #34

When will the media learn? Conservatives are not “centrists”! (Another article by RJE) RiverLover Jan 2015 #35

"If we are to live in a world where words have meaning, they really should stop doing that." delrem Jan 2015 #36

'Reality based community' was a Third Way phrase designed to make Liberals look sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #39

I thought Karl Rove coined that phrase nxylas Jan 2015 #42

I'd rather be aspirant Jan 2015 #40

That is another excellent article. Labels & Talking points are something that should be discussed sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #38

It's been extremely eye-opening, reading about 3rd Way, and then seeing the spin RiverLover Jan 2015 #41

Cowen and Kessler's argument has already mutated nxylas Jan 2015 #43

PP'S vs LWP's, how many P's will we end up with? aspirant Jan 2015 #44

Left is good. Hillary is right of center. So don't let them frame the discussion. Take their sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #45

Thank you Sabrina! TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #46

Pin of the Week! demwing Jan 2015 #47

Thank you demwing! sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #48

Great post as always, Sabrina Oilwellian Feb 2015 #49

Thanks Orwellian, it really is a great forum, a lot like the old DU when people were able to discuss sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #50

The members of the "Third Wary" are members of the Democratic party. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #51

The Third Way is politically agnostic. They are not Democrats. The are a Wall St backed Think Tank. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #52

They are registered Democrats, so that does make them Democrats, by definition Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #55

By definition that actually makes them infiltrators within the party Dragonfli Feb 2015 #58

By the Democratic Party's rules they are Democrats. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #59

I don't like their fiscal policies because they are Republican fiscal policies Dragonfli Feb 2015 #60

Because the 3rdWay PR folks used 2naSalit Feb 2015 #53

Pull any strand of the anti labor, pro capitalist spider web and you find the same spiders. Warpy Feb 2015 #54

Because all that matters is electing people who put a "D" next to their names. Maedhros Feb 2015 #56