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In reply to the discussion: The Third Way: 'Why are Democrats affiliated with this group that wants to gut Democratic Programs?' [View all]RiverLover
(7,830 posts)5. REALLY great info, thanks! And even scarier? Third Way is just "the tip of the iceberg"
...Having caused the worst financial crash since 1929 and the worst economy since the Great Depression of the 1930s, Wall Street is thoroughly discredited and broadly disliked throughout America. Given that the vast economic wreckage it caused is still crippling families and communities across the country, this isn't likely to change anytime soon. Unrepentant, unaccountable, unpunished, arrogant and still stuffing their pockets with billions in bonuses in the face of such suffering haven't helped Wall Street with their standing either.
But, remarkably, that doesn't matter much in too many places in Washington, D.C., which is often an Alice-in-Wonderland world where Wall Street's role in the 2008 financial crash and economic calamity are almost never mentioned.
...First, they misleadingly caricature anyone who doesn't agree with Wall Street's views as nothing more than "soak the rich" tax and spend "populists" trying to spark class warfare. It's argument by label and epithet. And, what better way to let your paymasters know whose side you're on than to do that on the Opinion page of the Wall Street Journal and to attack Sen. Elizabeth Warren by name?
That few if any serious people hold the views Third Way and Wall Street's other funded groups, organizations and people ascribe to them doesn't matter. Label them. Dismiss them. Trash them. No room for nuance when your agenda isn't to engage in a serious, meaningful or thoughtful discussion, but to create a cartoonish figure to attack.
Second, Third Way and Wall Street's other allies intentionally misleadingly conflate Wall Street with what is good, necessary and important to the American people.
Their favorite claim, repeated by Third Way: Wall Street is a job creator. That's simply not true. As the '08 crash and economic collapse proved, Wall Street is a job killer of historic proportion.
...As if perpetuating that core myth isn't enough, Third Way then exaggerates, distorts and equates criticism of Wall Street as "vilification of industry." But, Wall Street is not "industry." Apple, GM, Caterpillar, AT&T, IBM, Boeing, Facebook, Google, ADM, P&G, Home Depot and so many other companies are "industry" that create jobs and build and sell products. No one is vilifying them.
Importantly, it's not just front groups like Third Way that push Wall Street's agenda. Wall Street also directly or indirectly funds a massive lobbying operation as well as numerous public relations firms, academic advocates, advertising campaigns, political contributions, so-called think tanks as well as trade and industry groups. Much of this influence industry is greased by former senior government officials who have sold out spinning through the revolving door.
This massive, largely unseen network created and connected by vast sums of money is how Wall Street still gets its way -- largely unseen -- in Washington.
Third Way is just the tip of the iceberg.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-m-kelleher/how-wall-street-still-get_b_5942324.html
But, remarkably, that doesn't matter much in too many places in Washington, D.C., which is often an Alice-in-Wonderland world where Wall Street's role in the 2008 financial crash and economic calamity are almost never mentioned.
...First, they misleadingly caricature anyone who doesn't agree with Wall Street's views as nothing more than "soak the rich" tax and spend "populists" trying to spark class warfare. It's argument by label and epithet. And, what better way to let your paymasters know whose side you're on than to do that on the Opinion page of the Wall Street Journal and to attack Sen. Elizabeth Warren by name?
That few if any serious people hold the views Third Way and Wall Street's other funded groups, organizations and people ascribe to them doesn't matter. Label them. Dismiss them. Trash them. No room for nuance when your agenda isn't to engage in a serious, meaningful or thoughtful discussion, but to create a cartoonish figure to attack.
Second, Third Way and Wall Street's other allies intentionally misleadingly conflate Wall Street with what is good, necessary and important to the American people.
Their favorite claim, repeated by Third Way: Wall Street is a job creator. That's simply not true. As the '08 crash and economic collapse proved, Wall Street is a job killer of historic proportion.
...As if perpetuating that core myth isn't enough, Third Way then exaggerates, distorts and equates criticism of Wall Street as "vilification of industry." But, Wall Street is not "industry." Apple, GM, Caterpillar, AT&T, IBM, Boeing, Facebook, Google, ADM, P&G, Home Depot and so many other companies are "industry" that create jobs and build and sell products. No one is vilifying them.
Importantly, it's not just front groups like Third Way that push Wall Street's agenda. Wall Street also directly or indirectly funds a massive lobbying operation as well as numerous public relations firms, academic advocates, advertising campaigns, political contributions, so-called think tanks as well as trade and industry groups. Much of this influence industry is greased by former senior government officials who have sold out spinning through the revolving door.
This massive, largely unseen network created and connected by vast sums of money is how Wall Street still gets its way -- largely unseen -- in Washington.
Third Way is just the tip of the iceberg.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-m-kelleher/how-wall-street-still-get_b_5942324.html
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The Third Way: 'Why are Democrats affiliated with this group that wants to gut Democratic Programs?' [View all]
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
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They are "liberal" on issues that don't cost the 1% money. on all the others they are
Doctor_J
Jan 2015
#12
Exactly, moderate on issues that don't cost Wall St anything. What WOULD cost Wall St
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#21
It is actually a travesty that needs to be explained to the brain dead.
world wide wally
Jan 2015
#4
I have done that and the contrast between his focus on the needs of the PEOPLE and the current
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#22
REALLY great info, thanks! And even scarier? Third Way is just "the tip of the iceberg"
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#5
K&R! This post should have wider exposure. And it should have hundreds of recommendations.
Enthusiast
Jan 2015
#8
You are just supposed to concentrate on those lollipops, as far as I can tell.
djean111
Jan 2015
#18
And realize that if you don't vote, you'll just get the apples with no lollipops
Doctor_J
Jan 2015
#37
One reason I like the idea of this Group is that this is where these discussions should be held.
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#23
Thank you for the correction, I will edit. I was reading Black's article at the same time, which are
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#17
And they scream that we have to support them because we must be loyal to all Democrats.
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#25
They're ex-Republicans (as is Hillary, for example) who find the current Republicans
Lydia Leftcoast
Jan 2015
#14
This is a great thread. One of the best I've seen in a while and not surprised it's by sabrina.
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#24
Thanks rhett, but it's no longer difficult to find material on these Wall St infiltrators.
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#30
Exactly. So many pieces fall into place when you learn the facts. Thankfully many people are now
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#31
When will the media learn? Conservatives are not “centrists”! (Another article by RJE)
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#35
"If we are to live in a world where words have meaning, they really should stop doing that."
delrem
Jan 2015
#36
'Reality based community' was a Third Way phrase designed to make Liberals look
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#39
That is another excellent article. Labels & Talking points are something that should be discussed
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#38
It's been extremely eye-opening, reading about 3rd Way, and then seeing the spin
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#41
Left is good. Hillary is right of center. So don't let them frame the discussion. Take their
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#45
Thanks Orwellian, it really is a great forum, a lot like the old DU when people were able to discuss
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#50
The Third Way is politically agnostic. They are not Democrats. The are a Wall St backed Think Tank.
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#52
They are registered Democrats, so that does make them Democrats, by definition
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2015
#55
I don't like their fiscal policies because they are Republican fiscal policies
Dragonfli
Feb 2015
#60
Pull any strand of the anti labor, pro capitalist spider web and you find the same spiders.
Warpy
Feb 2015
#54
Because all that matters is electing people who put a "D" next to their names.
Maedhros
Feb 2015
#56