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scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
5. Hah! Seeing your subject line in My Posts gave me a good laugh!
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:49 PM
Nov 2014

Happy belated birthday, btw. I just hit Medicare eligibility age week before last. Got the card and everything!

Yeah, imparting wisdom would be lovely, if only anyone cared. I never knew there was so much hatred for Baby Boomers out there until I saw it on DU.

Still:

There's a lot to be said for remembering the post-war optimism and Roosevelt's long shadow, despite all the problems of those days. Not to mention the hippie era, when we thought we could change the world (and in some measure accomplished that). Having been through all that gives you a different sort of consciousness if you have no direct memories of the world before Reagan.

That pretty much nails the way I see it, too. Thank you for saying it so well.

I think that hardest thing of all for younger folks to conceptualize is that when you and I were growing up, a sort of generalized cultural/political liberalism was the default state of our country pre-Reagan. Not that there wasn't always some form of conservatism fighting for space in the public consciousness, but aside from the rightwing fringe of those days (the Birchers and their ilk), it didn't actively seek to completely undo and destroy all things liberal. It was more about seeking accomodation for conservativism within the existing paradigm.

The sense of The Commons was taken as a given - being as it was a traditional value going all the way back to English Common Law. We as a nation were proud of our system of free public schools. We as a nation saw our government as the means by which our needs and the needs of our fellow citizens would be met with impartiality. Government wasn't the enemy, it wasn't "other", except to the fringe nutjobs.

I know I'm glossing over a lot - it's just that life in the U.S. felt different in those days. Workers were proud of their Unions, and we were proud of them for having Unions. We were proud of our National Parks, we proud of the WPA and CCC. We were proud of our arts, proud of our libraries, proud of our universities, proud of our scientists, proud of our family farms, proud of our small businesses, proud of our "classless" society. We felt like the U.S. was doing a damn good job of being an advanced, civilized nation. We knew how to make it all work and we were only going to get better and better.

Yeah, we had the extraordinary good fortune to have lived through a time of general optimism. I can understand how that would be hard to grok if you weren't around then.
So I guess I'm the only under-25er here. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #1
In context of DU membership, those who are politically active and post often. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #2
I think it's true of politically active liberals in general. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #3
True but they have great pot-lucks. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #47
Yah. Missus Yonson is bringen Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #50
True, but go to any active campaign office-- eridani Dec 2014 #59
The large 50+ age politically active block is believable. Heavy school-work-family decades of appalachiablue Nov 2014 #4
I googled: I hate Bush. narnian60 Nov 2014 #10
Never thought of that. Good one. appalachiablue Nov 2014 #14
I got here in Spring 2001, Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #11
Wish I'd known of DU then or 2005. Better late than never though. I've heard other liberal, appalachiablue Nov 2014 #23
General annoyance? I was thinking major annoyance, but then field-grade officers always confused me. Scuba Nov 2014 #24
... scarletwoman Nov 2014 #25
There's a colonel of logic in there somewhere. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #36
I was shocked in 2000 that the Democrats capitulated to the election theft. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #49
A friend mentioned DU LiberalElite Nov 2014 #12
Good to know. appalachiablue Nov 2014 #15
I Googled "when did liberal become a dirty word?" CrispyQ Nov 2014 #48
Hah! Seeing your subject line in My Posts gave me a good laugh! scarletwoman Nov 2014 #5
There was also a functioning LiberalElite Nov 2014 #13
There were liberal Republicans back in those days because liberalism was NORMAL. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #17
I recall how the Dems LiberalElite Nov 2014 #18
That was largely thanks to the DLC. However, it started before that, with McGovern's loss to Nixon. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #21
Ah. I wasn't aware of that - tks LiberalElite Nov 2014 #22
So in 1976 we got Carter, who won out in the primaries over Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #43
I thought the beginning was with Reagan - LiberalElite Nov 2014 #45
In some ways, it began with Nixon. Starting to privatize the Post Office, for example. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author scarletwoman Nov 2014 #19
Good analysis. I think some would-be progressives Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #42
This probably explains the attraction of "Roosevelt"? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #6
Not really. If you compare the usernames of the votes for the Roosevelt option in the naming poll scarletwoman Nov 2014 #7
Just an observation about the PRG overall. Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #8
Every time there's been an age poll done in GD, the 45-55 age group has always been the largest. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #9
Another way to look at it...is KoKo Nov 2014 #53
I was 51 in 2001 when I joined DU, probably not too long after you joined. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #54
I know.... KoKo Nov 2014 #55
Jackpine Radical's not the only one under 25 anymore! F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #16
Thanks! There's always been a serious deficit of younger people on DU. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #20
I've been trying to get more people on here. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #31
I'm really glad you're doing that - showing people the articles. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #32
21 here Alittleliberal Nov 2014 #26
There sure are. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #38
Yes another 19 year old! minivan2 Nov 2014 #34
I'm shocked! F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #37
75 jzola Nov 2014 #27
You've lived through a lot of changes in our country! scarletwoman Nov 2014 #28
69 williesgirl Nov 2014 #29
You're certainly in excellent company! scarletwoman Nov 2014 #30
19 minivan2 Nov 2014 #33
Yes! So glad you're here! scarletwoman Nov 2014 #35
Somebody's gotta get up and dance. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #41
Interesting that it skews so much older. vi5 Nov 2014 #39
I'm just a little TBF Nov 2014 #44
Another re-naming poll: Spiketail Democrats. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #40
A bit surprising. I'm 27, and much of the resistance I've run into has been from UrbScotty Nov 2014 #51
Not surprising, imo. People tend to be resistant to change in general, scarletwoman Nov 2014 #52
Your profile says you've been a member since 2001. If you are 27 now, you joined DU at 12 o 13 and merrily Nov 2014 #56
Nope. Joined later than that. UrbScotty Nov 2014 #57
"When I did join, we were getting close to war in Iraq was well underway" nt merrily Nov 2014 #58
You were 15 when you joined DU? merrily Dec 2014 #60
36 (nt) bigwillq Dec 2014 #61
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