Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

merrily

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89. Lincoln was left of Douglas.

Wed Nov 19, 2014, 11:29 AM

Nov 2014

However, by TR's time, I think the crossover of the parties may have been in progress. In other words, I don't think the switch happened in an instant or in one Presidency. Republican Taft succeeded TR and I don't think Taft was liberal. So, I am not sure which party was the more liberal when TR was President. As immigrants were coming in, the Irish, the Jews, the Italians, and so on, they were becoming Democrats.

Obama has compared himself with TR a few times, excluding TR's racism. Well, whoopee. That takes us clear up to about 1909, when women's suffrage was the cutting edge.

Think about this: When and why did the left of the left stop calling themselves liberal and start calling themselves progressives? Wasn't it when the DLC types re-popularized the term?

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UPDATED: Vote Deadline Extended to Name Our Populist Movement within Democratic Party [View all] EEO Nov 2014 OP

OK. (nt) Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #1

PPP - Populist Progressive Party. L0oniX Nov 2014 #2

Added to poll. EEO Nov 2014 #32

Another plea not to use "Party" in the name. It sounds like a third party. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #62

I don't see any rush for a name...but this was a good one suggested: KoKo Nov 2014 #3

I second this. nt F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #8

Added to poll. EEO Nov 2014 #20

Same initials as "People's Republic of China," fwiw. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #38

I like Populist Caucus. merrily Nov 2014 #58

I could live with Populist Caucus. However, I would like to continue rhett o rick Nov 2014 #86

I don't think they stole the meaning. I think liberals misunderstood it as a synonym for liberal. merrily Nov 2014 #87

I am not an expert but think differently on this. The Republican Party of Teddy Roosevelt was the rhett o rick Nov 2014 #88

Lincoln was left of Douglas. merrily Nov 2014 #89

I thought the left switched from liberal to progressive because of the demonization of the rhett o rick Nov 2014 #90

Who helped Republicans demonize the word "liberal" so much that even merrily Nov 2014 #94

That makes sense. I lost track where we were going with this. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #95

My journal used to contain a post entitled something like merrily Nov 2014 #96

The fact this is being debated now is exactly why is not the best idea. Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #93

Shouldn't this be designed to grow BEYOND a caucus? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #92

Well I hope it grows until it's the DEmocratic Party. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #97

Me too. Thats why the BRANDING is so important! Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #98

I absolutely agree. We shouldn't be in a hurry. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #100

Actually... 99Forever Nov 2014 #4

Social Democrats ... GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #5

Have to go with this too, makes it more present, new and youthful. Add to poll? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #9

Done. EEO Nov 2014 #22

Added to poll. EEO Nov 2014 #21

OTHER - I like the current name. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #6

It's not a change of name for the group. It is a selection of a name for a new populist movement. EEO Nov 2014 #31

The Peoples Wing of the Democratic Party PADemD Nov 2014 #7

I like "The Populist Way" as a response to "The Third Way" Dragonfli Nov 2014 #10

Could be a good option! Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #42

Populist Reform Group. I think the original name of the group is fine, AND NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #11

I'm totally confused, also. KoKo Nov 2014 #12

Updated the info in the OP. EEO Nov 2014 #16

To be clear: are we talking about naming a new political party ... Martin Eden Nov 2014 #13

Clearly no. Read the last paragraph of the OP. n/t JimDandy Nov 2014 #14

Updated the info in the thread. EEO Nov 2014 #15

Thanks. In that case ... Martin Eden Nov 2014 #17

Progressive Caucus Martin Eden Nov 2014 #18

Added to poll. EEO Nov 2014 #19

Roosevelt Democrats MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #23

Hi, how ya been man? Dragonfli Nov 2014 #24

You made some excellent points. I had chosen The Democratic Wing, but realize that as you said sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #26

Are we talking about "Re-Naming this DU Group or How we can Deal with Our Party? KoKo Nov 2014 #29

You can totally undo your vote and go for another selection. EEO Nov 2014 #30

I think that was a great argument. And I voted for The Roosevelt Party. EEO Nov 2014 #27

Why I choose Democratic Wing: Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #25

I will admit I was nearly swayed by the Democratic Wing argument. EEO Nov 2014 #28

Ah, hell, I switched to Roosevelt Democrats since the Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #33

Sometimes silence is just bad timing. Post a link to your proposal thread for more input. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #34

The title: "I propose PRG be run like an organizing committee." Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #39

Here's the link to the "Organizing Committee" thread: scarletwoman Nov 2014 #40

I would far prefer our movement be named after a PRINCIPLE rather than a person. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #35

Yep Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #43

Is there a way to incorporate the word "Blue" without automatically reminding us of Blue Dogs? demwing Nov 2014 #59

Blue is too ties to the blue dogs.... So I vote no. peacebird Nov 2014 #76

I'm totally perplexed about the direction this is moving Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #79

Don't be perplexed, we're just brainstorming demwing Nov 2014 #80

Blue is a great color in "advertising" Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #83

Thank you. I have the same reservations about "harken(ing) to a nostalgic day gone by". scarletwoman Nov 2014 #103

Besides, Teddy was a Republican President merrily Nov 2014 #85

Sadly, I don't like either leading choice, but have no suggestions of my own Scootaloo Nov 2014 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author demwing Nov 2014 #65

socialist? demwing Nov 2014 #72

Progressive People's Party - PPP - For Short cantbeserious Nov 2014 #37

POPULIST WING Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #41

My thoughts about all of the candidate terms: NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #44

I see plenty of "bad spin" from MSM with ROOSEVELT Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #45

The First Way? nxylas Nov 2014 #46

We learn about him in high school because we study the great depression and WWII LeftInTX Nov 2014 #74

But is there a specific image associated with him? nxylas Nov 2014 #75

He ranks up there with Lincoln and Washington LeftInTX Nov 2014 #99

~ "21st Century Democrats" ~ NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #47

More thoughts: No name that ends in "Party". scarletwoman Nov 2014 #48

But the Tea Party is the Republican Party nxylas Nov 2014 #52

Very well. EEO Nov 2014 #66

I'm not sure I care anymore. We can call ourselves the "Purple Turnips" & it won't mean anything if scarletwoman Nov 2014 #69

Well, I'm learning to ignore criticism from some people, as it devolves into feigned apathy. EEO Nov 2014 #70

People's Democratic Alliance, or United Democratic Populists. nt Zorra Nov 2014 #49

I like "Democratic Wing" or "Progressive Caucus or Coalition" and would recommend against a name rhett o rick Nov 2014 #50

I totally agree - see my post #48 above. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #51

I like "coalition" nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #73

Roosevelt Wing? EEO Nov 2014 #67

Just to throw a wrench in the works demwing Nov 2014 #53

Great sentiments... Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #54

So let's play with that theme for a bit demwing Nov 2014 #55

YES! The Daily Show does it BEST. Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #56

Roosevelt Wing would be an acceptable compromise. EEO Nov 2014 #68

I like Populist Caucus. merrily Nov 2014 #57

Yes, how very PC. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #60

Right away, I saw what you did there. I started smiling from the subject line, merrily Nov 2014 #61

I figured you would get it but I have a habit of adding the "just kidding" because some here rhett o rick Nov 2014 #63

To be candid, I usually lean literal (sic). But I did get that one. merrily Nov 2014 #64

Well then, how about Populist American Caucus? merrily Nov 2014 #78

I like it, I also like Coalition. But I am torn between "populist" and "progressive". rhett o rick Nov 2014 #81

You're okay with PAC? merrily Nov 2014 #84

^^^^^ I'm thinking the same Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #91

One more wrench demwing Nov 2014 #71

Maybe, but blue always brings blue dogs to mind, and we are the antithesis of the blue dog dems.... peacebird Nov 2014 #77

Not bad. Again I don't like the use of "party" as it may infer a separate party. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #82

I like the Roosevelt's because the general population made thier DVD movie number one! TheNutcracker Nov 2014 #101

And one of them said "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself." EEO Nov 2014 #104

How about the "Wealth Inequality Is Too Damn High!" Party? Maedhros Nov 2014 #102

I don't understand this argument. EEO Nov 2014 #105

A Populist movement needs to change the paradigm Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #106

POPULIST MAJORITY Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #107

I've Changed my Vote demwing Nov 2014 #108

Thank you. I'm with you. scarletwoman Nov 2014 #109

A name is important. Our effectiveness depends on our unification. It is important that rhett o rick Nov 2014 #110

Honestly, the idea of a deadline for selecting a name was arbitrarily set demwing Nov 2014 #111

I agree completely. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #112

Ok, Roosevelt Dems or Roosevelt Caucus... tokenlib Nov 2014 #113

The poll has closed, the thread is now locked. demwing Nov 2014 #114