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TM99

(8,352 posts)
15. Come on.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 07:08 AM
Dec 2014

You are smarter than this and we both know it. Words have meaning besides the 'literal' ones you keep quoting out of the dictionary.

One can be militant without literally perpetrating violence. One can score points in a relationship without literally having a score board. One can fight for their beliefs without literally throwing a punch. You get the point.

Also please stop playing the victim, and definitely stop comparing the current new atheist persecution complex with being a person of color or an LGBT.

My sister is gay. She was beat up as a young child for her sexual orientation. She still lives in a state that will not recognize that she and her partner of 12 years deserve to be married if they so choose. My father is black and my mother is white. You don't know shit about racism. Getting your feelings hurt and running to the defense of atheists everywhere because one poster said some, not all, atheists can be as militant and as reactionary as the fundamentalist religious believers we all despise is no where even close to what real persecution is. And frankly it is damned offensive to suggest it in an emotionally laden post defending your inappropriate actions.

Stop being a hypocrite as well. The Interfaith group is safe haven that just happens to be open to non-believers. The A&A safe haven does not specifically say all are welcome. And it is quite obvious that all are not. Personally and subjectively offensive material about religions and believers is posted there frequently. If a believer came in to the safe-haven and complained, what do you think the response has been? If you guess a shark attack and then banning the poster, you would be correct.

So you think it is offensive. Well bring it up in the Religion forum and let's all have another knock down drag out fight about dictionary definitions, common usage of terms, and reality where it belongs. It does not belong here. Can you not see that it is inappropriate to keep pushing your personal feelings into this safe haven? I object to most of the bullshit you new atheists push in the A&A safe haven, and I respect that it is your space to act, feel, and say what you will. I am a fucking non-believer and I did not find the post offensive. It was your own subjective emotional response. Please go work through that in another forum that is more suited for that.

I think we do need to rethink a few things in here. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #1
"...but we need to make clear that disruption is not permitted". ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #2
i hate banning people but it has become necessary at times. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #3
I understand, and would dislike doing so, too. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #4
Yes this is true. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #6
Vandals. okasha Dec 2014 #9
I think one thing needs to be said. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #5
I am going to be very blunt. TM99 Dec 2014 #7
I agree. okasha Dec 2014 #10
You are mistaking Religion with interfaith LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #11
Was anyone hurt or threatened with acts of violence? LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #13
Come on. TM99 Dec 2014 #15
You and I have had civil conversations before LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #16
We have, however, I am not going back and forth with you. TM99 Dec 2014 #17
Then lets not go back and forth LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #18
I don't think it's a matter of belief or nonbelief. rug Dec 2014 #8
Are we talking about the most recent post? LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #12
Could there also be a discussion on personal attacks? LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #14
Don't take it personally. Comic Sans has that effect on people. rug Dec 2014 #19
Actually its papyrus LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #20
How about Infidel? rug Dec 2014 #21
I like that, might have to download it (nt) LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #22
I think it goes deeper than a discussion of the rules to what the purpose of this forum is el_bryanto Dec 2014 #23
I have used it as both myself. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #24
No one has been banned because s/he is an atheist. okasha Dec 2014 #26
I don't agree that they have been patient enough. I think that people have been banned for el_bryanto Dec 2014 #27
Well i can say all bans were done with all in agreement. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #28
I don't buy that... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #29
I'm not sure what part of my statement you don't buy. It seems we are on the same page el_bryanto Dec 2014 #30
I don't buy that atheists are automatically antagonistic toward religion... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #31
OK el_bryanto Dec 2014 #32
kicking. the discussion is important. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #25
Since Pinto has resigned as host in Religion, okasha Dec 2014 #33
Hopefully the nominstion process will go smoothly. i nominated TexasTowlie. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #34
We don't need to be discussing what happens in the RELIGION group here. Period. MADem Dec 2014 #51
Good points all, and thank you for voicing them. kentauros Dec 2014 #53
I agree, and the only way to keep TM99 Dec 2014 #57
Are you proposing that this group should begin to follow its SOP? eomer Dec 2014 #35
Did you come in here just to complain about us? Really? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #36
I came here to ask whether this group is considering following its SOP. eomer Dec 2014 #37
We do enforce our sop and you are welcome. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #38
Thanks for the warm welcome. eomer Dec 2014 #41
Enjoy. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #42
I think our SOP is just fine. okasha Dec 2014 #39
Well said okasha! Well said! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #40
I think the SOP is fine too, will try to live up to it when posting here. eomer Dec 2014 #46
Welcome back, eomer. okasha Dec 2014 #49
You must have been reading another group. I think it starts with "A". rug Dec 2014 #43
No, I was definitely reading this group. eomer Dec 2014 #45
That's a good plan. rug Dec 2014 #48
"friendly and respectful" would be far better than "tolerant" and "civil" and "positive" because carolinayellowdog Dec 2014 #44
Good to see you back, carolinayellowdog. okasha Dec 2014 #47
Interfaith dialogue, 1880s style carolinayellowdog Dec 2014 #55
Good to see you back my friend! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #50
Then they need to be shown the door. MADem Dec 2014 #52
I completely agree. TM99 Dec 2014 #56
It sounds like the religion forum is falling apart. el_bryanto Dec 2014 #54
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