Well that's three. Three to go.

[LostOne4Ever]

65. However, you were also treated fairly by the hosts in AA

When you got in trouble was when you disagreed with a hosting decision. Even then, you were not blocked or told never to post there again.

The hosts even put a lock on that thread and had a discussion on its appropriateness when you brought up your concerns. You also posted multiple times before that and were not ever given any trouble. No one said that your mere presence there was a disruption. No one objected simply because they had arguments with you from religion.

Most of all, you were given a fair shake. Can you really say that Goblin was given a fair shake here?

Lets go over what happened here.

You posted a very controversial thread about Dawkins and even remarked you hardly ever post about atheists. This in turn sent red flags up over at AA who were already POd about several Dawkins threads. Some of us were even warned not to respond as the post was flamebait. I didn't give it much thought as I thought you posted it for simple discussion.

However, truebrit saw it and responded angrily and accused you in a very insulting manner of flamebaiting. This was the first disruption and he knew he would get hidden and blocked and that is exactly what happened. Nobody is disputing that his punishment was deserved. It was very deserved.

THEN the second disruption occured when rug accused truebrit of being homophobic (even though truebrit has posted supportively of gay rights in the LBGT forum in the past). Goblin replied to that because he knew the accusation was unfair.

THEN Goblin started a conversation with you on labels when Bryant attacked Goblin totally unprovoked (sorry provoked by his history in Religion...though I had no such history and that did not stop him from attack me as well). They had an exchange till bryant got a hide. Then for 2 and a half hours the thread didn't have a single post. I will get back to this.

Meanwhile, back at the Dawkin's thread Rug and Goblin responds in an increasingly angry tone to each other. This is when Bryant comes in (after being locked out of the other thread) and brings his grudge against Goblin thus disrupting the disruption. The thread is locked by your co-host who makes it sound like Goblin was the source of the disruption when it was actually rug.

Then 2 1/2 hours after the conversation ended in the Labels thread, rug picks it back up and brings up the stuff from the other thread. Goblin is publicly chastised and accused of disrupting while rug and bryant don't get a word to them. The explanation? His very presence is a disruption.

Which means Bryan is bringing in a grudge from religion! Something your co-host specifically says is not allowed! but apparently when Bryant does it not once, not twice, not thrice, but four times...he then gets pat on the head told his unprovoked attacks were a plan to get him banned.



Then posters continue arguing in that thread for several posts long after Goblin left about truebrit's post and not a word from the hosts. I like to add that those posters were accusing truebrit's post of being a come on to you when one can simply see that is not the case or else he would have used the term "my" in relation to the comments about a worm and hook (an obvious allusion to baiting....or to be more percise flamebaiting). He accused you of "baiting" a fishing hook. Do I really need to link hundreds of other people making the same allusion all over DU to prove this when other people in this very thread have mentioned "baiting" already?

Finally, Goblin does disrupt after having been baited for two threads and you block him. Not so much as a call out against Bryant or Rug for their part in the affair. Not only that, he got all the blame for their actions. Yet, you think the blocking was justified.

I think that is not in the slightest bit fair, and I think you know it was not fair or you would not be saying Goblin's blocking is temporary.

And for the record, I don't want Bryant or rug blocked. Believe it or not i USED to like Bryant. I thought his posts in religion were well thought out and he was one of the few truly fair posters. I didn't blame him at all when he was so mad that he trashed religion and was sympathetic to him. Then he went off on me, and now on Goblin when neither of us where being hostile to him. I also used to like rug, but that has nothing to do with what is happening in here.

What I do want is for you to unblock Goblin and treat people fairly in here. I want people to be treated fairly in every group and what I REALLY REALLY want is for both groups to be civil to each other or failing that to JUST LEAVE EACH OTHER ALONE. If you can't be nice stay out. No more alert trolling, no more flame posts. But after the double standards I have seen here, the victim blaming that has been going on...I don't think that is going to happen.

I can understand your hostility to Warren but until he does something deserving of being blocked or told never to post again, you are in the wrong in going after him. This is INTERfaith not liberal Christians and progressive people of faith. You can not say non-believers are welcome here and then say their very presence is a disruption.

If people have problems with people from other rooms, then use ignore. After putting about 8 people on ignore I can now view the religion room without turning into a fiery ball of rage. It works wonders and this whole mess could have been avoided.

But as I said above its your group, you can do what you want. But if you are going to block Goblin I want you to block me too.