Interfaith Group

cbayer

(146,218 posts)

8. Of course it should be taken into account.

Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:41 PM

Aug 2014

Any available data should be taken into account when making a decision such as this.

It's not just about technically being in compliance with the SOP, it's about whether someone's aim is to be disruptive.

Although I think this group was set up as a ghetto, I think it can serve a purpose of protecting those that want to discuss religion without being subjected to bullying and harassment. IMO, the role of the hosts is to make sure that is what happens.

If a person who has shown overt hostility towards this group and it's usual participants steps foot into this group, there is no reason to think that their motives are anything but hostile.

This really isn't that complicated. I get that you want to make nice, nice with everyone, but that's just not always possible.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

96 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Well that's three. Three to go. [View all] el_bryanto Aug 2014 OP

As a non-theist who would self-identify my TM99 Aug 2014 #1

Except now we have a problem. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #2

I'm unlikely to apologize to them - so yes - I guess I should be banned. nt el_bryanto Aug 2014 #3

I wasn't thinking an apology from you specifically. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #12

An apology to who? hrmjustin Aug 2014 #14

To whoever was banned from this group as a result of el bryanto's Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #16

He was banned because of his own actions not anybody else's. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #17

I know you said that the SoP does not need to be rewritten Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #21

You know how to debate someone you disagree with civilly. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #22

Those last two sentences could be added to the SoP Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #23

This is an idea. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #24

I agree with adding the sentiment expressed by justin in his post. cbayer Aug 2014 #27

Too wordy. rug Aug 2014 #30

I agree with Thom about adding your last two lines to the SOP. cbayer Aug 2014 #25

I sent it to Kentauros to see his opinion on it. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #26

We won't be changing it kentauros Aug 2014 #84

That's fine. I understand your reasoning. cbayer Aug 2014 #86

So you think goblin's blocking was totally justified and stand by it? LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #32

I personally did it. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #34

I see LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #35

I think you are going to need a thread for those of us who demand to be blocked kdmorris Aug 2014 #60

I appreciate your standing with your friend but the answer is no. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #61

Maybe you don't hate him kdmorris Aug 2014 #66

I think you should leave this alone now. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #67

Justin, please consider ignoring all of this. Please. cbayer Aug 2014 #87

Will you all be singing kumbaya? rug Aug 2014 #64

You have got to be kidding…. or something. cbayer Aug 2014 #15

I wasn't going to participate in this thread, but this post is utter hogwash. cbayer Aug 2014 #4

I agree with every syllable of this. okasha Aug 2014 #6

The nub of the disagreement seems to be whether Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #7

Of course it should be taken into account. cbayer Aug 2014 #8

When is that aim determined? Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #10

I really don't get you at all at this point. cbayer Aug 2014 #13

That's unfortunate. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #19

I don't think you are being fair at all. cbayer Aug 2014 #20

I'm also having a wotthehell response to your post. okasha Aug 2014 #33

Ok, here's how I would have judged the situation: Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #36

Did you miss the first part of my post? okasha Aug 2014 #37

All I want is consistency. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #39

Let me repeat this, since it apparently isn't clear. okasha Aug 2014 #42

His point is that I should be blocked too. For my behavior in Interfaith el_bryanto Aug 2014 #43

Each of you has one instance of baiting that I've seen. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #45

How about if I self block - just agree not to post here anymore. Would that satisfy you? nt el_bryanto Aug 2014 #53

I've been out-voted. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #56

It would be morally wrong okasha Aug 2014 #59

Who are the other persons? Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #62

You're not any of them. okasha Aug 2014 #63

What you are ignoring is that he came into the room to bait and to disrupt. rug Aug 2014 #54

Mine too. okasha Aug 2014 #50

Ok, and what I'm saying is that in my opinion Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #44

I sincerely hope you're not telling me okasha Aug 2014 #47

He should have stopped after being assured that it really was homophobia. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #55

Yes, he should have. okasha Aug 2014 #57

I think we're pretty much done here. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #58

Do you think I would be welcome in AA? hrmjustin Aug 2014 #38

Probably not, but is that the right comparison? Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #40

My point is that I know I wouldn't and they knew their presence would be equally disruptive. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #41

You make a good point about the PMs. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #46

That doesn't mean your opinion doesn't count. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #48

Thanks, I appreciate that. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #49

Absolutely. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #51

However, you were also treated fairly by the hosts in AA LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #65

I thank you for your standing with him but it is time to stop posting about this. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #68

If it is just going to be a few days then just block KD and I LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #70

You know that is not going to happen. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #72

Then at the very least, please take our complaints under advisement. LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #74

You are a worthy advocate and always welcome here. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #76

TL;DR and what does your post have to do with this Group's SoP? rug Aug 2014 #69

I prefer to be Octavious (nt) LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #71

You're acting more like the subject of a piece by Juvenal. rug Aug 2014 #73

Ok, I'm confused. stone space Aug 2014 #88

Good question. okasha Aug 2014 #89

Too bad I don't think it is a sincere question LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #90

Ask him. okasha Aug 2014 #91

Why? All that will do is cause a fight. LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #92

Seriously? stone space Aug 2014 #93

Leader might be stretching it - but he is held up as the "representative" atheist by some believers el_bryanto Aug 2014 #94

It's only reciently that... stone space Aug 2014 #95

My introduction to Dawkins was from DU and Bill Maher. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #96

Atheism is not a faith. rug Aug 2014 #52

A "ghetto", eh? Perhaps you're right... TreasonousBastard Aug 2014 #31

I didn't know you were a Quaker. kentauros Aug 2014 #83

I say ghetto because this group was suggested and promoted by the very people cbayer Aug 2014 #85

Agreed. TM99 Aug 2014 #11

Only one member was blocked, kentauros Aug 2014 #5

Then that person should be unblocked. Htom Sirveaux Aug 2014 #9

How about you go there and ask if they want an apology? rug Aug 2014 #29

Actually, you only get 2 more before you get banned from the site. cbayer Aug 2014 #18

El Bryanto, friend. I hope you can get beyond No Vested Interest Aug 2014 #28

I want to make something clear. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #75

Gee, I don't know. rug Aug 2014 #77

I prefer fruit for my bait LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #78

No offense. rug Aug 2014 #79

None taken (nt) LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #80

Well I think it was honestly said but the members of AA have to realize we can discuss him hrmjustin Aug 2014 #81

consensus of the hosts is to leave the SOP alone. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #82