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AtheistCrusader

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11. I could understand that if it was a mild divergence. This case is an entire role reversal.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 11:55 AM
Aug 2014

Otherwise, I would not have stopped and asked.

You tell me if my tone was an attack or attempt to humiliate. I will link to my own post.

http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=130271
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=130311

That seems pretty mellow to me.

Edit: Sorry, you said you can't view it. Excerpt:

"You can see examples of it in the religious left right here in this folder. People who have faith, but have let go of religious doctrine that is today understood to be sexist, misogynistic, or homophobic, etc.

No controversy, no headline.

"The religious fundamentalists have succeeded in gaining a great deal of power. What shall we do to counter that. I agree with the author that we essentially pave the way for them at times."

The only way for the religious left to change a 'faith' that includes doctrine of the sort I mentioned, really, is to leave it and find greener pastures in keeping with their faith.

Members of the catholic church that find something as un-controversial as contraceptives as acceptable, is actually HIGHER than the average US citizen's acceptance of same. Members of the RCC appear to have very little pull to change the official doctrine of the church on contraceptives.

If you can't change it, and individuals seek to either change it, or find other faith communities in which their values are respected, they are under no obligation to stay put and suck it up, where they can neither change it, or feel welcomed for their values. It would be a special kind of sadistic torture for outsiders to demand they do so."

Thanks for posting this here. cbayer Aug 2014 #1
Not so long ago, you castigated me in the Religion forum for suggesting people who objected AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #2
This really does seem to be a popular occupation these days el_bryanto Aug 2014 #3
I kept that post within spec for the group topics, and civil. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #4
So do you feel like in the religion forum you and your fellow atheists el_bryanto Aug 2014 #5
That was not my suggestion. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #6
I'm obviously not going to religion to read what you originally said el_bryanto Aug 2014 #7
I could understand that if it was a mild divergence. This case is an entire role reversal. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #11
I can't speak for Cbayer el_bryanto Aug 2014 #16
I believe it is the ineffective choice, and I cite the delta between church doctrine, and individual AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #20
I think given the tone of the religion forum, particularly in regards to the Catholic Church el_bryanto Aug 2014 #23
I try very hard to separate my condemnation of the church doctrine, from the actual people who AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #27
AC, when I posted in Religion okasha Aug 2014 #8
I responded to that post only because it is directly relevant to a previous discussion. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #9
He's talking to another poster Goblinmonger Aug 2014 #10
My attitude is that if we let you and other atheists like you into this forum el_bryanto Aug 2014 #12
I hope I've made it clear that I am not here to start a fight by way of tone or content. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #13
It looks like that's happening. Union Scribe Aug 2014 #17
We'll see - maybe they are just bored and will give up after a while. nt el_bryanto Aug 2014 #18
Why are you following me here? cbayer Aug 2014 #14
I didn't tell them they SHOULD leave. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #15
I've had enough of this! kentauros Aug 2014 #19
I am addressing El Bryanto's honest questions only, and then will leave peacefully. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #21
So you are saying you will block people Goblinmonger Aug 2014 #22
Let's just leave it be. There is no way to resolve this. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #24
Ignore the entirety of my posts at your own peril. kentauros Aug 2014 #25
Go ahead and block me Goblinmonger Aug 2014 #28
The basis of this forum is mutual respect across various belief systems. el_bryanto Aug 2014 #29
That's at least twice you've said you're leaving Union Scribe Aug 2014 #30
We are not welcoming to people who come to disrupt. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #33
For the record I have blocked Goblinmonger for his disruptions. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #34
You do understand that a pointed challenge was made in the post in the religion forum Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #35
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #37
I'm just curious why that response to me did not result in the poster being blocked from this group. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #41
please provide me that link in a pm. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #44
It is 2 posts up "message hidden by jury decision". Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #48
Thank you. I just found the link. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #49
Imagine that. It was only 4-3. rug Aug 2014 #54
That was not a "pointed challenge", Warren. okasha Aug 2014 #47
The op derailed it herself. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #50
Ok thank you for your words here but the meta needs to stop now. thanks. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #51
Are you calling this group a "clubhouse"? rug Aug 2014 #55
My cousin, now deceased, was a member of a Unitarian Universalist church. MADem Aug 2014 #26
I would say about half of my GLBT friends and family members are members cbayer Aug 2014 #31
A few months ago, I attended a Catholic funeral Mass okasha Aug 2014 #52
That is a wonderful story and I am certain that it is repeated all over. cbayer Aug 2014 #53
Francis has always been one of my heroes. okasha Aug 2014 #58
He is so loved here in Italy. cbayer Aug 2014 #60
UU is what, 0.1% of christians? Even that much? Most of the UUs I know are atheists. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #36
Well, the survey said "religious," not Christian. And UU is a religion, it gets the tax exemption MADem Aug 2014 #38
The point being that UU is completely unrepresentative. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #42
Well, it is what it is. And it does work for what it is. MADem Aug 2014 #43
Actually, UU is representative of many different religions, including nonChristians. rug Aug 2014 #57
Actually AlbertCat Aug 2014 #59
Do your own homework. rug Aug 2014 #56
I'm pretty sure that Warren is essentially correct. eomer Aug 2014 #65
What do you think about the hostility? rug Aug 2014 #66
Yes, it's absolutely inconsistent with UU principles and our congregation's welcoming policy. eomer Aug 2014 #67
I am a member of a UU church and... TreasonousBastard Aug 2014 #61
It's a start--I really do think that without inclusion, many churches are dooming themselves. MADem Aug 2014 #64
I am getting sick and tired of these disruptions. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #32
I have all of the offenders on Ignore. TM99 Aug 2014 #39
We had to ban 2 in the past week and I think they went to far. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #45
Hopefully it will settle down soon enough. nt MADem Aug 2014 #40
I doubt it but we shall see. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #46
I would hope so too, but... TreasonousBastard Aug 2014 #62
It's a tricky thing to have a civil exchange of views at times. MADem Aug 2014 #63
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