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MADem

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28. My involvement basically came out of a place where I got tired of seeing decent people get crapped
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 09:50 AM
Apr 2014

upon.

In my view, there's really nothing of which we can be "certain." I'm not talking about strictly spiritual matters, but matters of "science," as well. Once upon a time, scientists thought that we were affected by "humours" and that women's wombs could wander all over their bodies.

There's just a shitload that is not known. Still. Despite an air of "certainty" there's plenty that's just not clear even to this day. People get through their days the best way they know how. Cultural considerations also impact this kind of thing...and many religious holidays are a boatload of fun. People "cling" to their religions for lots of reasons, some social, some spiritual, some to keep grandma happy, and some for the chocolate, cookies and cakes.

I'm not going to fault people for believing what they want to believe, be it this deity or that, this prophet or that, or the FSM, so long as they aren't shitty to others and so long as they don't discriminate. It's like choice--NMB. Not. My. Business. I think most people who are--in actual fact and not fronting for internet fun--True Progressives feel this way. It's just not an issue. I also think most True Progressives follow the "Render Unto Caesar" attitude in their daily lives as well. No need to insert religion into government or taxpayer funded endeavors--it's just not cool.

The A/A group could or can do what they want. I think if they want to bash people who post here, that's on them entirely--the only thing is, they're NOT gonna do it here.

I don't think the mark of a "good" group is necessarily one that is heavily trafficked. The most "popular" kids in my high school, back in the dark ages, were assholes, lots of 'em. Volume does not always translate to quality.

If a person wants to have a chat with someone, or a few people, about a topic that fits here, they can invite them with a PM or redirect from the "free-wheeling" religion group to a more in-depth discussion. That's the utility of this place--it's a quiet corner where people won't be jerking your chain. It's a place where civility is the watchword, if you will...!

I feel more comfortable here. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #1
First off this place isn't a "shooting gallery" kentauros Apr 2014 #2
That's largely my experience as well. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #3
Yes and sometimes the other room gets the better of me. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #4
I don't have a problem with my beliefs being questioned kentauros Apr 2014 #5
This is it, exactly. The idea is to have a safe haven of sorts--the TOS spells it out. MADem Apr 2014 #24
A little history on Interfaith, if I might. cbayer Apr 2014 #6
Than what can we do to get it off the ground? It seems like the only threads that have legs in el_bryanto Apr 2014 #7
I try not to participate in those threads and I do so cbayer Apr 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #19
Though I think the DU3 changes are really great cbayer Apr 2014 #23
My involvement basically came out of a place where I got tired of seeing decent people get crapped MADem Apr 2014 #28
I've been thinking about this, but I don't really have a solution. cbayer Apr 2014 #30
We're not organized--we're Democrats. MADem Apr 2014 #35
The difference between the gungeon and religion is that cbayer Apr 2014 #36
There was a reason for this: "Almost all of the support came from the DU atheist community". rug Apr 2014 #37
I tend to think that is accurate, but I can not be sure. cbayer Apr 2014 #39
Agreed. rug Apr 2014 #41
I think we need to post about other religions. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #8
You never see any Islam threads here, I've noticed! MADem Apr 2014 #25
Yes we need to post them. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #46
I have little experience with it. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #47
I always read this group and Catholic group first goldent Apr 2014 #10
That was my initial suggestion back in the DU2 days--but people hated it because some folks LIKE to MADem Apr 2014 #31
I agree, and to be clear what I think makes most sense... goldent Apr 2014 #48
Near as I can tell, the "religion" group was pretty much always that way... MADem Apr 2014 #49
Just to inform this group I have decided to stand down as a religion host. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #11
It would be a loss for this group or any group to lose you No Vested Interest Apr 2014 #12
Thanks. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #13
Ignore can be great. No Vested Interest Apr 2014 #14
Sounds like a great option. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #15
Maybe take a break and come back later....? MADem Apr 2014 #32
Oh I am going to post in the room. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #34
See Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #16
Thank you but it was time. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #43
I will send you a pm. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #44
I wish you'd stay....you have a good head on your shoulders. nt MADem Apr 2014 #27
It was unhealthy for me. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #17
A discussion of religion I suppose el_bryanto Apr 2014 #22
If you like to "go there just to argue" then do that. That's tolerated there. MADem Apr 2014 #33
Excuse me, but what kind of people go anywhere just to No Vested Interest Apr 2014 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #45
It appeals to Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #20
We can have a monthly discussion about dead children there. rug Apr 2014 #38
Seems like that is all they want to do. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #40
Oh there are moments when I would like to trash that room. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #50
I have trashed it - there's just no point to it anymore. nt el_bryanto May 2014 #59
I think the room was getting to you. hrmjustin May 2014 #60
I have to say ignore works. hrmjustin May 2014 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever May 2014 #52
It is making my life easier. hrmjustin May 2014 #53
Most of the time, just not responding okasha May 2014 #54
I don't think it is permanent but I just can't deal with them now. hrmjustin May 2014 #55
Understood. okasha May 2014 #56
Thanks. hrmjustin May 2014 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever May 2014 #58
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