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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. A little history on Interfaith, if I might.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:32 PM
Apr 2014

When DU3 came into being, there was much discussion about whether the Religion group was or was not a "safe haven".

It was decided (mainly by consensus) that it was not.

Discussion ensued as to whether there should be an alternative that would be a safe haven. Unfortunately, much of the discussion about this took place in the now closed meta forum, which you can not access or search.

As I recall, the believers felt that it would not serve much purpose and maintained that civility should rule in all groups. Another member, MADem, was very much in favor of this group and promoted it as a place that people could discuss religion without fear of attack. He posted a thread asking who supported it's formation and had enough responses to have the group opened in March, 2013.

Almost all of the support came from the DU atheist community, as is evidenced in this post.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12307658

I found that very curious at the time, but if you read that thread it may become glaringly obvious why things have not gone all that well.

In one ATA post, hrmjustin asked Skinner about his thoughts regarding the hostility towards religion on DU and received this reply:

I'm not religious, and I understand that too often religion is used to justify intolerance. But some DUers are hostile to religion. Personally, I think it is offensive and unnecessary. Many good DU members are believers -- they do not support the intolerant teachings of their faith, and there is no reason to deliberately alienate them. Liberal believers are going to be the people who ultimately bring change to their own religions.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1259572

Initially, I and others tried to promote the group. We posted articles and tried to draw attention, but like many of the very small or new groups on DU, it did not flourish.

Also, almost immediately, several members of DU anti-theist community began frequenting the group with the same kind of antagonism they displayed in the religion group. They also took the opportunity to mock the groups extensively and call out specific members while doing so. This was done in the A/A group.

This became such a problem that the hosts of A/A had to take action to stop it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/123013986

Although the rules they laid down at that time are not in any way consistently followed in the A/A group, they did stop talking about the Interfaith Group for a time.

There you have it. It started out with a broken leg, incurred a few other broken bones and never got off the ground.

So, my answer to your question is a resounding no.
I feel more comfortable here. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #1
First off this place isn't a "shooting gallery" kentauros Apr 2014 #2
That's largely my experience as well. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #3
Yes and sometimes the other room gets the better of me. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #4
I don't have a problem with my beliefs being questioned kentauros Apr 2014 #5
This is it, exactly. The idea is to have a safe haven of sorts--the TOS spells it out. MADem Apr 2014 #24
A little history on Interfaith, if I might. cbayer Apr 2014 #6
Than what can we do to get it off the ground? It seems like the only threads that have legs in el_bryanto Apr 2014 #7
I try not to participate in those threads and I do so cbayer Apr 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #19
Though I think the DU3 changes are really great cbayer Apr 2014 #23
My involvement basically came out of a place where I got tired of seeing decent people get crapped MADem Apr 2014 #28
I've been thinking about this, but I don't really have a solution. cbayer Apr 2014 #30
We're not organized--we're Democrats. MADem Apr 2014 #35
The difference between the gungeon and religion is that cbayer Apr 2014 #36
There was a reason for this: "Almost all of the support came from the DU atheist community". rug Apr 2014 #37
I tend to think that is accurate, but I can not be sure. cbayer Apr 2014 #39
Agreed. rug Apr 2014 #41
I think we need to post about other religions. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #8
You never see any Islam threads here, I've noticed! MADem Apr 2014 #25
Yes we need to post them. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #46
I have little experience with it. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #47
I always read this group and Catholic group first goldent Apr 2014 #10
That was my initial suggestion back in the DU2 days--but people hated it because some folks LIKE to MADem Apr 2014 #31
I agree, and to be clear what I think makes most sense... goldent Apr 2014 #48
Near as I can tell, the "religion" group was pretty much always that way... MADem Apr 2014 #49
Just to inform this group I have decided to stand down as a religion host. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #11
It would be a loss for this group or any group to lose you No Vested Interest Apr 2014 #12
Thanks. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #13
Ignore can be great. No Vested Interest Apr 2014 #14
Sounds like a great option. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #15
Maybe take a break and come back later....? MADem Apr 2014 #32
Oh I am going to post in the room. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #34
See Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #16
Thank you but it was time. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #43
I will send you a pm. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #44
I wish you'd stay....you have a good head on your shoulders. nt MADem Apr 2014 #27
It was unhealthy for me. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #17
A discussion of religion I suppose el_bryanto Apr 2014 #22
If you like to "go there just to argue" then do that. That's tolerated there. MADem Apr 2014 #33
Excuse me, but what kind of people go anywhere just to No Vested Interest Apr 2014 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #45
It appeals to Dorian Gray Apr 2014 #20
We can have a monthly discussion about dead children there. rug Apr 2014 #38
Seems like that is all they want to do. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #40
Oh there are moments when I would like to trash that room. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #50
I have trashed it - there's just no point to it anymore. nt el_bryanto May 2014 #59
I think the room was getting to you. hrmjustin May 2014 #60
I have to say ignore works. hrmjustin May 2014 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever May 2014 #52
It is making my life easier. hrmjustin May 2014 #53
Most of the time, just not responding okasha May 2014 #54
I don't think it is permanent but I just can't deal with them now. hrmjustin May 2014 #55
Understood. okasha May 2014 #56
Thanks. hrmjustin May 2014 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever May 2014 #58
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