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Manifestor_of_Light

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7. Which Christ?
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 01:24 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:33 PM - Edit history (2)

The one who preached The Sermon on the Mount?

Or the one who cussed out a fig tree when it refused to fruit out of season, away from its natural annual rhythm(Jesus must not have known anything about biology)?

Or the one who said I come not in peace, but with a sword [to set families apart]?

Or the one that said most people will go to hell?

Or the one who said Jews were condemned as sons of those killing the prophets?

Or the one who said if you are believing and baptized you will be saved, otherwise you will go to hell?

Or the one who said if you do not forsake your family, leave everything behind and follow him, you are not worthy of him?

Or the one who said the unforgivable sin was blaspheming the holy spirit, whatever that means??

There are hundreds of examples of Jesus saying cruel, absurd and inhumane things.

Which Jesus you talking about? It's ALL in the Bible that Christians revere as a "moral guide" I'm trying to be respectful but it's quite difficult for such a mixed up group of non-contemporaneous writings by many different authors, and clumsily edited to keep patriarchy and political authority intact.

My point is: What Jesus said does not make any sense at all, as a whole. A few small pieces of what he said are good, but they are not unique to Christianity. If you knew about how the bible was edited and mixed up(Constantine, council of Nicaea)and interpreted for political purposes, you wouldn't think it was a good moral guide.

Hinduism and Buddhism don't have any contradictions in them as far as morality. There is nothing The Buddha said where Buddhists say "Oh that was a hateful thing The Buddha said, so we'll ignore it or gloss it over or say it was a metaphor". Buddha is not a god either.

What is the definition of a Christian? [View all] Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 OP
I thought "Christians" were people who followed Jesus, AKA the Prophet Isa. MADem Aug 2013 #1
I was making Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #2
Well, the bottom line is, if I say I'm a ballet dancer, I'm a ballet dancer. MADem Aug 2013 #20
I am gad that you have posted your question here and suspect you will get cbayer Aug 2013 #3
A Christian is a believer who believes Jesus Christ is the Jewish Messiah and is the son of God come hrmjustin Aug 2013 #4
The Apostles' Creed okasha Aug 2013 #5
+1 rug Aug 2013 #9
I read the thread you cited in the thread header Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2013 #6
Which Christ? Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #7
If you knew how the Bible was edited, okasha Aug 2013 #8
You seriously misunderstand Christian teaching. rug Aug 2013 #10
I've always wanted to poke holes in the arguments against the Bible, kentauros Aug 2013 #11
The insistence on giving equal weight to every word okasha Aug 2013 #12
We celebrate the Jesus of the bible and our traditions. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #13
Or the one who rode dinosaurs, while you're at it? MADem Aug 2013 #21
Why do you need to be "saved" in the first place? Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #14
Well it came from the idea that since we know right from wrong we chose to rebel against God hrmjustin Aug 2013 #15
Yep, original sin and substitionary atonement. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #16
I don't believe in Adam and Eve but yes it is the idea that people from the time we first were on hrmjustin Aug 2013 #17
Actually, gods that are "very similar to the story of Jesus" okasha Aug 2013 #28
Actually, okasha Aug 2013 #18
This is probably not the best place to call a belief "ridiculous"... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #19
I agree--nothing wrong with hashing out differences of opinion, but it's best if MADem Aug 2013 #22
You're not "the decider," though, MoL. MADem Aug 2013 #23
I'm not saying these are bad people. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #24
I am simply asking you to choose your words carefully. MADem Aug 2013 #25
I am choosing my words carefully. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #26
The Mormons. But see, there you go again! MADem Aug 2013 #27
I've been a UU for decades. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2013 #29
Your comments support my point. MADem Aug 2013 #30
You have to admire the sheer chutzpah Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2013 #31
No, you don't. okasha Aug 2013 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Aug 2013 #33
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