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Big_Mike

(509 posts)
17. It comes down to the individual state
Mon May 18, 2015, 11:51 PM
May 2015

Here in Cali, the Attorney General lists all weapons legal for sale in Cali. They must have certain features such as safeties and chamber indicators to name a few. Each state could do the same if it wished.

If a weapon blows up in someone's hands, the manufacturer can be sued, due to defective product laws. However, if the weapon functions as designed, they cannot be sued.

Eliot Roger, the former Santa Barbara City College student stabbed three men, shot two women and one man, and ran over 13 people. I don't know the brand of knife used, but should the knife maker be sued? How about BMW for making the car he used to injure 13 people? Why should firearms be held to a different standard? I would be interested in hearing logical reasoning on this, not simply a bunch of logical fallacies as so often happens with this subject.

What needs to be done is to treat firearm crimes very, very harshly. Not just use a gun, go to jail. Make a gun crime two strikes rather than one. Let multiple counts multiply the result. Use a gun on more than one person, go to jail for life with no parole.

That strikes me as fair. The life the shooter's victim knew has been shattered, maybe ended. Let the shooter's be shattered so as well.

Please keep in mind that our Senators represent their states - - and Vermont has the most relaxed gun position in the nation. How could you expect Bernie to go against the wishes of those he represents? I very MUCH prefer his reasoned stand on almost all subjects to the set in beach sand rigidity of Senator/Secretary Clinton. If she wins the nomination, I most likely will not vote for her, as Cali will not soon be carried by a (R) person. If, by some miracle the election here is close, I will vote for her; but that is about as likely as Bill being re-elected for a third term.

I'm sorry Bernie, this is a deal breaker for me. flamin lib May 2015 #1
me too, flamin lib BainsBane May 2015 #2
When a campaign photo appears with Hillary Clinton TM99 May 2015 #6
If any of those companies produced or knowingly sold a defective product the federal flamin lib May 2015 #8
You are not being logical or legal. TM99 May 2015 #9
No, it is you that is illogical. flamin lib May 2015 #10
Are you usually such an ass in polite conversation? TM99 May 2015 #11
Well, Mr. Pot, let us compare ass holiness. flamin lib May 2015 #14
Wow, you can't even read TM99 May 2015 #15
Sorry. TM99 May 2015 #16
It comes down to the individual state Big_Mike May 2015 #17
Sanders Has An "F" (Lowest) Rating From The NRA On Gun Control Tace May 2015 #3
Politico and one of his constituents and supporters in GD BainsBane May 2015 #4
If I had to choose this gun record which I hate to NOT dismantling wall street and banksters NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #5
Thanks for posting, good information. Sancho May 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author pablo_marmol May 2015 #12
Not sure if this is an absolute deal breaker mwrguy May 2015 #13
Very unfortunate, but heis still the best canidate. ncjustice80 May 2015 #18
another invite to a poll jimmy the one May 2015 #19
in depth report on bernie sanders gun control votes jimmy the one Jul 2015 #20
yet he still defends voting for immunity for gun manufacturers BainsBane Jul 2015 #21
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