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gejohnston

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17. it was still the city council, not Earp

Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:56 PM

Jun 2013

So from here on out can we presume that may issue ccw law is not a violation of 2ndA since it is just a concealed 'carry' ban, not a gun ban. Right? there's only a right to keep & 'bear' arms, & bear means in a confrontational manner, as per 2ndA & scalia, right? Thanks.

it wasn't may issue. It was a prohibition. At that time, the SCOTUS would have said that the BoR only apply to the federal government and not he states and territories. A guy in Texas 13 years later did just that, but it was a handgun licensing law that Texas had at the time. He was in deeper shit for killing a cop and being a white married to a person of color, but he gave it a try anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Cruikshank

Second in command of what? Old western movies don't accurately depict how the system worked. The sheriff was the elected guy in county seat. Deputies, including Earp, were assigned to districts. Tombstone happened to be in his. Same way it works today. The resident deputy of Farson, Wyoming, isn't second in command to the guy in Green River.

FWIW, may issue vs shall issue is a 14A issue.
Edit to add
Town Marshall simply means police Chief of one. His later job with the county.

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Just curious. What do RKBA gun enthusiasts say about Wyatt Earp and his gun ban in tombstone? [View all] CTyankee Jun 2013 OP

Now you know what that little dustup Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #1

That's right! KansDem Jun 2013 #2

what would happen if someone went over to the Gungeon and posted two words: Wyatt Earp? CTyankee Jun 2013 #5

cross post this and find out. nt gejohnston Jun 2013 #10

this post got me a lot of information. Very interesting. I never knew all that stuff about CTyankee Jun 2013 #32

According to the NRA billh58 Jun 2013 #3

Oh boy. But I can understand it because I finally realized that their grasp on reality is very CTyankee Jun 2013 #4

Historians, not the NRA. gejohnston Jun 2013 #11

I believe the gun ban was selectively enforced. ... spin Jun 2013 #6

so there it is... CTyankee Jun 2013 #7

Wat a minute! your link...what did I miss when I clicked on it? CTyankee Jun 2013 #8

concealed carry privileges in dodge jimmy the one Jun 2013 #12

The simple reality is that probably neither the Earps or the Cow-Boys ... spin Jun 2013 #15

Earp didn't ban anything gejohnston Jun 2013 #9

I see. It was a gun ban on carrying into the town. OK. CTyankee Jun 2013 #13

He didn't, it was the city council gejohnston Jun 2013 #14

actually jimmy the one Jun 2013 #16

it was still the city council, not Earp gejohnston Jun 2013 #17

state prohibitions on carrying concealed jimmy the one Jun 2013 #18

Good for them. gejohnston Jun 2013 #19

my mother was born in 1911 in El Paso and used to tell me, with great disgust, how CTyankee Jun 2013 #20

It didn't take the NRA apologists billh58 Jun 2013 #21

well, I didn't know that much about Wyatt Earp before but they sure do. It's amazing how CTyankee Jun 2013 #23

Would a U.S. gun ban have disarmed Pancho Villa? N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #26

Oh, I think it was just a factof life in El Paso of 1911. The wild, wild West, you know. CTyankee Jun 2013 #27

Pancho Villa was a revolutionary, leading a small army of revolutionist. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #28

Yes, I knew who he was. I guess I have to take my mother at her word that it actually CTyankee Jun 2013 #29

Just my opinions discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2013 #22

It is interesting, from a historian's point of view. However, we have evolved as a matter of CTyankee Jun 2013 #24

I'm not exactly sure... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2013 #25

Sorry. I was just saying that "that was then, this is now" which is what I meant by CTyankee Jun 2013 #30

Progress is the only hope... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2013 #31