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jimmy the one

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47. but gun ownership has declined those years
Thu May 9, 2013, 06:52 AM
May 2013

marble falls: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Army The structure of the Swiss militia system stipulates..
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/Specials/Gun_debate/Background/Archives/Soldiers_can_keep_guns_at_home_but_not_ammo.html?cid=970614 "Zwei Drittel der Rekruten diensttauglich (2009.


Don't you think you should've checked your above links prior to sticking your foot in your mouth about switz, canada, & israel being more armed than USA?

Your point actually is one of mine - it ain't the guns, its the gun nuts.

.. except that wasn't my point, which is it's both guns & gunnuts.

marble falls: Gun Crimes Drop, Gun Purchases Rise May 8, 2013

The very same article's headline could also read 'Gun Crimes Drop as Gun Ownership Drops', since gun ownership has fallen the past 30 yrs while gun sales have increased - primarily amongst existing gunowners.
So what apparently is happening is approx the 20/80 rule where 20% of the people enthralled with the 'fad' purchase 80% of the fad itself - which then isn't enough to compensate for yearly population growth so the actual ownership rate falls.

mar 2013:A national survey shows that US gun ownership has fallen steeply since the 1980s, even in the South and Western mountain areas where guns are more popular, the New York Times reports. The national ownership rate hovered around 50% in the 1970s and '80s, but dropped to 43% in the 1990s and 35% the decade after, according to the General Social Survey, the only poll to cover US gun ownership for so long. Democrats and independents lead the shift, with Republican gun ownership down just slightly.. the survey's director says those reports may reflect current gun owners stocking up on more firepower. Theories with experts noting:
1 the end of the US draft (fewer soldiers = fewer household guns) 2 rising urbanization (guns being favored in rural areas) 3 more Hispanics (only 14% of them have guns) 4 and more women heading households (only 10% of women own guns)
http://www.newser.com/story/164169/gun-ownership-numbers-way-down.html

another: For the last 30 years, it turns out, gun ownership has dropped steadily. Today, only about 30% of households own a gun. Most of this is due to demographics. Apparently there was a big spurt in gun ownership in the generation born between 1920 and 1960, and then the spurt went away... I suspect the increase in gun sales has been limited mostly to current gun owners. The most reputable surveys show a decline over time in the share of households with guns

That's good. I hope it continues to fall. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #1
We're still in the stratosphere when compared to most other countries. Squinch May 2013 #2
No doubt. Three countries I can think of are as or more armed than the US .... marble falls May 2013 #3
Israel, Switzerland, and Canada are not as armed as we are. DanTex May 2013 #5
In both Israel and Switzerland anyone who serves in the armed forces..... marble falls May 2013 #10
Yes, but we have more guns per capita. DanTex May 2013 #16
Also funny how billh58 May 2013 #24
Why are gun suicides your big concern? Are you concerned with non-gun suicides as well? What Squinch May 2013 #6
It shows what a low priority we have for mental health, I am concerned about suicide by cop... marble falls May 2013 #11
Concerned as in you would like to see fewer guns in circulation so as to reduce suicides? Squinch May 2013 #13
Another NRA billh58 May 2013 #18
These are inconveniant facts, but they don't negate the need in lite of all the gun mayhem... marble falls May 2013 #23
No they are not billh58 May 2013 #25
Another example of billh58 May 2013 #28
I wouldn't get too excited yet rightsideout May 2013 #4
There are less shootings, period. Violence, according to the FBI has gone down. marble falls May 2013 #12
The number of shootings has increased in the last decade. DanTex May 2013 #17
FBI says otherwise: marble falls May 2013 #19
Sigh. Again, violent crime and shootings are not the same thing. DanTex May 2013 #20
see marble falls May 2013 #21
So you are saying that the CDC stats are false. Am I understanding you correctly? DanTex May 2013 #22
So you are saying the FBI is making it up. Am I understanding you correctly? marble falls May 2013 #26
For the third time, "violent crime" and "shootings" are not the same thing. DanTex May 2013 #27
NRA apologists billh58 May 2013 #30
Facts you don't like? Try these: marble falls May 2013 #38
Tell Uncle Wayne billh58 May 2013 #43
The CDC says otherwise rightsideout May 2013 #31
You do know you keep linking to this story which requires a subscription to see? pipoman May 2013 #37
Let's bring it to zero mwrguy May 2013 #7
Then how come gun nuts want everyone to be armed to the teeth? TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #8
Um.... because they're gun nuts? Because like the article says, the public percieves... marble falls May 2013 #14
Holy Shit! The NRA had better get right on this. Turbineguy May 2013 #9
Nice try billh58 May 2013 #15
Rubbish. And has been proven so repeatedly. Robb May 2013 #29
Exactly rightsideout May 2013 #32
Over the last decade or so there is a definite plateau. n/t ellisonz May 2013 #34
Gun porn in the gun control group Kingofalldems May 2013 #33
There's some fine education going on upthread. ellisonz May 2013 #36
So if the general argument is correct, gun control clearly works! ellisonz May 2013 #35
While at the same time AR-15's and SK-47's and banana clips were made legal. marble falls May 2013 #39
Jared Lee Loughner, Adam Lanza, and James Holmes all used weapons or clips... ellisonz May 2013 #53
have a cup of swiss myth jimmy the one May 2013 #40
Try this: marble falls May 2013 #41
the bigger picture jimmy the one May 2013 #42
From CBS, LA Times, USA Today .... got more if you need it...... marble falls May 2013 #44
Are you going to address woundings Robb May 2013 #45
Gun violence includes woundings. I haven't repeated anything. All links are origional.... marble falls May 2013 #46
So should we just do what the NRA tells us? Kingofalldems May 2013 #49
but gun ownership has declined those years jimmy the one May 2013 #47
Right. From 50% ownership in the 1950's to 37% currently. But population.... marble falls May 2013 #48
1950 = wrong census jimmy the one May 2013 #50
bullshit. Suicide IS gun violence. bowens43 May 2013 #51
Suicide by gun is most definately violence. marble falls May 2013 #52
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