Gun Control Reform Activism

billh58

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28. Another example of

Tue May 7, 2013, 08:50 PM

May 2013

a standard NRA talking point: most gun deaths are as a result of suicide, so they don't count. They could just as easily used "a handful of pills, or a plastic bag."

Is it really that hard for you gunners to figure out? People use guns because they are easily accessible, and the suicide attempts are mostly quick, easy to perform, and generally successful. Other methods often lead to failure due to second thoughts, and family or medical intervention (among other reasons).

Next NRA talking point please...

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Rate Of U.S. Gun Violence Has Fallen Since 1993, Study Says [View all] marble falls May 2013 OP

That's good. I hope it continues to fall. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #1

We're still in the stratosphere when compared to most other countries. Squinch May 2013 #2

No doubt. Three countries I can think of are as or more armed than the US .... marble falls May 2013 #3

Israel, Switzerland, and Canada are not as armed as we are. DanTex May 2013 #5

In both Israel and Switzerland anyone who serves in the armed forces..... marble falls May 2013 #10

Yes, but we have more guns per capita. DanTex May 2013 #16

Also funny how billh58 May 2013 #24

Why are gun suicides your big concern? Are you concerned with non-gun suicides as well? What Squinch May 2013 #6

It shows what a low priority we have for mental health, I am concerned about suicide by cop... marble falls May 2013 #11

Concerned as in you would like to see fewer guns in circulation so as to reduce suicides? Squinch May 2013 #13

Another NRA billh58 May 2013 #18

These are inconveniant facts, but they don't negate the need in lite of all the gun mayhem... marble falls May 2013 #23

No they are not billh58 May 2013 #25

Another example of billh58 May 2013 #28

I wouldn't get too excited yet rightsideout May 2013 #4

There are less shootings, period. Violence, according to the FBI has gone down. marble falls May 2013 #12

The number of shootings has increased in the last decade. DanTex May 2013 #17

FBI says otherwise: marble falls May 2013 #19

Sigh. Again, violent crime and shootings are not the same thing. DanTex May 2013 #20

see marble falls May 2013 #21

So you are saying that the CDC stats are false. Am I understanding you correctly? DanTex May 2013 #22

So you are saying the FBI is making it up. Am I understanding you correctly? marble falls May 2013 #26

For the third time, "violent crime" and "shootings" are not the same thing. DanTex May 2013 #27

NRA apologists billh58 May 2013 #30

Facts you don't like? Try these: marble falls May 2013 #38

Tell Uncle Wayne billh58 May 2013 #43

The CDC says otherwise rightsideout May 2013 #31

You do know you keep linking to this story which requires a subscription to see? pipoman May 2013 #37

Let's bring it to zero mwrguy May 2013 #7

Then how come gun nuts want everyone to be armed to the teeth? TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #8

Um.... because they're gun nuts? Because like the article says, the public percieves... marble falls May 2013 #14

Holy Shit! The NRA had better get right on this. Turbineguy May 2013 #9

Nice try billh58 May 2013 #15

Rubbish. And has been proven so repeatedly. Robb May 2013 #29

Exactly rightsideout May 2013 #32

Over the last decade or so there is a definite plateau. n/t ellisonz May 2013 #34

Gun porn in the gun control group Kingofalldems May 2013 #33

There's some fine education going on upthread. ellisonz May 2013 #36

So if the general argument is correct, gun control clearly works! ellisonz May 2013 #35

While at the same time AR-15's and SK-47's and banana clips were made legal. marble falls May 2013 #39

Jared Lee Loughner, Adam Lanza, and James Holmes all used weapons or clips... ellisonz May 2013 #53

have a cup of swiss myth jimmy the one May 2013 #40

Try this: marble falls May 2013 #41

the bigger picture jimmy the one May 2013 #42

From CBS, LA Times, USA Today .... got more if you need it...... marble falls May 2013 #44

Are you going to address woundings Robb May 2013 #45

Gun violence includes woundings. I haven't repeated anything. All links are origional.... marble falls May 2013 #46

So should we just do what the NRA tells us? Kingofalldems May 2013 #49

but gun ownership has declined those years jimmy the one May 2013 #47

Right. From 50% ownership in the 1950's to 37% currently. But population.... marble falls May 2013 #48

1950 = wrong census jimmy the one May 2013 #50

bullshit. Suicide IS gun violence. bowens43 May 2013 #51

Suicide by gun is most definately violence. marble falls May 2013 #52