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jimmy the one

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23. Some details of the bg check compromise
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 06:48 AM
Apr 2013
Currently, the background check system covers sales only by licensed gun dealers. The compromise would apply the system to all commercial sales, such as transactions at gun shows and online. The sales would have to be channeled through licensed firearms dealers, who would have to keep records of the transactions.
Private transactions that are not for profit, such as those between relatives, would be exempt from background checks.
.. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who led an earlier unsuccessful effort to strike a bipartisan background check deal, is backing the compromise after changes were made from an initial version of the deal between Manchin and Toomey..
The {schumer} changes included eliminating language that would have required states to recognize permits to carry concealed weapons issued by other states and eliminating language that would have limited background checks to sellers who sell at least five guns annually, said the aide
{good show chuck shumer, nip those loopholes in the butt... er, bud}

Some Republicans might vote to begin debate on the legislation but eventually oppose the measure on final passage.

Oh what a surprise, then can campaign on both sides of the fence depending on his 2014 audience! - I voted to begin discussion on background checks! (flip flop) I voted against background checks!

The gun legislation Reid wants the Senate to debate would extend the background check requirement to nearly all gun sales. Reid would try to replace that language with the Manchin-Toomey compromise once debate begins, a move that would require a vote.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/04/10/senators_unveil_deal_on_gun_sales_background_check_117895.html#ixzz2Q9cLWybe
I don't understand all this 'noise' about the Senate passing a gun control bill as everyone knows Purveyor Apr 2013 #1
I'm holding out hope that pressure on the House will move some of them, but we have to Laurian Apr 2013 #3
dems + compromise usually ends up smelling bad unless u are a repub. we will see nt msongs Apr 2013 #2
No background checks on "non-commercial" weapons sales. kelly1mm Apr 2013 #4
But this would get gun shows. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #5
Would it cover online sales? BainsBane Apr 2013 #6
It should. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #7
Online sales are already covered. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #17
Yes. It would. rdharma Apr 2013 #8
That's very strange. All commercial sales are already subject to background checks. slackmaster Apr 2013 #9
It only covers private sales "where advertising or an online service involved." rdharma Apr 2013 #10
Background checks don't and fundamentally can't stop straw purchasers. slackmaster Apr 2013 #11
Doesn't stop straw purchaser....... rdharma Apr 2013 #12
No, it doesn't have anything to do with stopping straw sales or prosecuting straw buyers. slackmaster Apr 2013 #13
You evidently don't know how these cases are prosecuted. rdharma Apr 2013 #14
Apparently you aren't familiar with how the background check system works slackmaster Apr 2013 #15
"A NICS check does not create a paper trail." rdharma Apr 2013 #16
Requiring a background check on a private transfer does not necessarily imply creating a 4473 slackmaster Apr 2013 #18
Then the House gets their turn Pullo Apr 2013 #19
No. We don't have to wait. It's in the Manchin/Toomey" agreement. rdharma Apr 2013 #20
I'd like to see the acutal text. An "agreement" isn't a bill. slackmaster Apr 2013 #21
"legitimately fail the background check" rdharma Apr 2013 #22
Initial false denials are very, very common because a lot of people have names that are... slackmaster Apr 2013 #24
Some details of the bg check compromise jimmy the one Apr 2013 #23
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