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JDPriestly

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30. Yes. They are saying that the Obama proposal would increase
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:44 PM
Apr 2013

the benefits for those who paid less into the system and lower them for others. That's another strike at the middle class.

But more importantly, it seems to me that with that turn of hand, paying more to the lowest paid recipients and less to the higher paid recipients of Social Security they are achieving two wrongs.

First, they are changing the nature of Social Security to make it means-tested. Someone like you who paid into the system will not receive quite as much as you would otherwise, and someone who did not pay in very much will receive more. That's fine, except basing the benefits according to the need is not Social Security.

Second, what they would be doing eliminating the need for things like food stamps, subsidized meals, etc. for seniors. I'm all for that. I think that is great. But I do not like the way they would do that. Currently, the funds for things like food stamps for the poor are paid out of general funds. If they raise the lowest Social Security benefits that is great for the country and for the poor recipients of Social Security, but it will deplete the Social Security Trust Fund faster. That is because at this time the money for the food stamps, etc. comes from the general fund. They are pulling a fast one by transferring the cost of providing for poor seniors totally to Social Security and not paying the costs out of the general fund.

The goal is a Wall Street goal and that is to get the middle class savers to spend all their money to fund their retirement and end up penniless at the end of their lives.

Also, this system will mean that very elderly people will receive more means-tested services such as for nursing homes, etc.

And middle-class seniors, especially lower middle-class seniors, who have saved will be forced to fill out all sorts of papers and demonstrate their indigence at a time in their lives when they cannot do those things.

We should continue the system as it is.

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cool Welcome to DU limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #3
Good song. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #6
Great. Good voice. Good singing. Musical. Stirring. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #13
NEW CHEER!! Zoonart Apr 2013 #2
I Like... WillyT Apr 2013 #4
i agree or take it away completely. DesertFlower Apr 2013 #7
"You can't call yourself an American and Downwinder Apr 2013 #5
CORRECT Skittles Apr 2013 #8
K&R Teamster Jeff Apr 2013 #9
So are The Center for Budget Policy Priorities and the Center for American Progress BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #10
What's it like living in bizzaro world? n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #11
You tell me. You appear to be a permanent resident of. eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #14
Wow you're going to wipe out poverty for ever by cutting social security? Awesome, sign me up. limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #15
That's not even remotely funny, and I take exception to that. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #17
There is only one way to change Social Security. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #16
There are actually TWO. The one you propose BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #18
Read my post. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #19
Disabled people are scared as hell of this too unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #28
Yes. They are saying that the Obama proposal would increase JDPriestly Apr 2013 #30
But it's worse than that unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #31
Wow! Thanks for that comment. I hadn't thought of that. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #32
Honestly, I don't know if that's the intended effect... unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #33
Robert Riech, Center for Economic Policy Research & AARP say #noChainedCPI FogerRox Apr 2013 #23
But real inflation will overtake chainedCPI FogerRox Apr 2013 #24
Link? Babel_17 Apr 2013 #25
It's part of the chained CPI in the Center for American Progress report. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #29
Thank you but Babel_17 Apr 2013 #34
"The Chained CPI would create a minimum baseline for Social Security benefits..." unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #27
Please stop insulting us by confusing "poverty" with actual poverty in real life eridani Apr 2013 #35
IT is a militant organized working class nineteen50 Apr 2013 #12
+1 n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #36
"Obama Unleased!!!" was the horror of the Right Wing prior to the election... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #20
Obama's Position Is Untenable -This Will Be The Last Straw For Many cantbeserious Apr 2013 #21
I kinda don't like anyone telling me what I can and can't call myself. classof56 Apr 2013 #22
I've said this before, and say it again: if EVER there was a time & place to draw line in sand 99th_Monkey Apr 2013 #26
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