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cbayer

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12. You are in a really difficult situation and I feel for you.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 11:58 AM
Apr 2015

As you know all to well, it is not very effective to try to talk someone out of their delusions.

IMO, the best approach is this: "I know you believe that to be true, but I don't share your belief".

In line with this, I might take this approach to the license.

I know that your drivers license is important to you, but we can't help you obtain it anymore. If you want to renew it, then you will have to do that on your own. If you wish to drive, then you will have to take the steps to get your insurance.

Based on what you say, I think this might be a very difficult task for him to accomplish.

This situation often comes up in regards to the elderly as well. In those cases, one can often elicit the help of medical professionals. However, it doesn't sound like that is an option for you.

In terms of legislation, this is a very slippery slope. One doesn't want to make laws that would discriminate against everyone who has or has had a mental illness. OTOH, it's important to keep dangerous people off the road.

BTW, I doubt very much that he could obtain a license for a firearm. Whether he is in treatment or not, he surely has a documented history of significant mental illness.

Editing to add this: Would he be ok with just having a legal, state issued ID? Most states make these available.

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I have a cousin who has schizophrenia and a Doctorate. JimDandy Apr 2015 #1
Your option results in: chknltl Apr 2015 #3
Don't delete. You need answers. JimDandy Apr 2015 #6
Please show my response #13 to those psych professionals you mentioned. chknltl Apr 2015 #14
I have to one JimDandy Apr 2015 #17
Very cool. Thanks for this JimDandy n/t chknltl Apr 2015 #18
Is Jeff's drivers license proof to him that he is Downwinder Apr 2015 #2
We do not know why he wants things. chknltl Apr 2015 #5
Just a thought. Downwinder Apr 2015 #8
i wish i had an answer olddots Apr 2015 #4
FWIW I wasn't really seeking discussion about my brother chknltl Apr 2015 #7
So, are you any safer than Jeff or someone out there Downwinder Apr 2015 #9
Ouch, you strike a nerve here chknltl Apr 2015 #10
if the local cops know him mopinko Apr 2015 #11
You are in a really difficult situation and I feel for you. cbayer Apr 2015 #12
Most here are asking about Jeff, so I'll talk about him and our family chknltl Apr 2015 #13
Jeff is so very lucky to have you and your brother. cbayer Apr 2015 #15
Thanks, you understand now. chknltl Apr 2015 #16
the trailer idea sounds really good. cbayer Apr 2015 #19
Last week the Secretary of HUD announced that HUD was JimDandy Apr 2015 #20
I alerted Ron to this chknltl Apr 2015 #21
Is he a "good" driver? hunter May 2015 #22
I wouldn't know about his driving ability. chknltl May 2015 #23
I was living in Southern California and had a question I needed to ask a prominent U.C. Berkeley... hunter May 2015 #24
Jeff has his moments chknltl May 2015 #25
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