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chknltl

(10,558 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:46 PM Apr 2015

Seeking a discussion/information on drivers licenses. [View all]

I have a brother, Jeff, who is diagnosed schizophrenic, he calls it telepathic-that the doctors know NOTHING about his actual issues. Jeff is cared for/looked after by our other brother Ron, who handles all of Jeff's finances and pays Jeff's bills. I assist Ron with Jeff where I can. It is important to note that Jeff refuses to take any meds for schizophrenia because as I mentioned, he doesn't believe he has this condition.

Jeff has a drivers license, he got it years ago when the schizophrenia wasn't so bad and it gets updated periodically by Jeff and Ron. Ron helps Jeff with that update because Jeff throws a fit if he can't have a drivers license. So far, Ron won't let Jeff know that there is ample money in Jeff's bank account to buy a car. Jeff constantly comes up with grand money making schemes in order to get a car but Ron and I use subterfuge best we can to keep that from ever happening.

Local law enforcement already know who Jeff is, (thanks to his intolerant neighbors). The cops don't pay Jeff visits when there are complaints because they consider Jeff mentally handicapped but harmless. When there are complaints, the cops just call up Ron and ask him to go deal with Jeff.

If you knew Jeff, it would be obvious to you why he should not be licensed to operate a motor vehicle. He has only partial grasp on reality. Further and truly boggling is the fact that should Jeff choose to get one, he could get a firearm too! No, I do not want this to be a gungeon worthy discussion, I am instead interested in hearing about our system, a system that would allow the handicapped out on our roads and highways. Are there ways to keep the 'Jeffs' of our society from getting a drivers license? In Washington State auto insurance is a requirement, could a case be made that Jeff is uninsurable? Is this something that the citizenry of our state, maybe even our nation need to be seeking legislation about?

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I have a cousin who has schizophrenia and a Doctorate. JimDandy Apr 2015 #1
Your option results in: chknltl Apr 2015 #3
Don't delete. You need answers. JimDandy Apr 2015 #6
Please show my response #13 to those psych professionals you mentioned. chknltl Apr 2015 #14
I have to one JimDandy Apr 2015 #17
Very cool. Thanks for this JimDandy n/t chknltl Apr 2015 #18
Is Jeff's drivers license proof to him that he is Downwinder Apr 2015 #2
We do not know why he wants things. chknltl Apr 2015 #5
Just a thought. Downwinder Apr 2015 #8
i wish i had an answer olddots Apr 2015 #4
FWIW I wasn't really seeking discussion about my brother chknltl Apr 2015 #7
So, are you any safer than Jeff or someone out there Downwinder Apr 2015 #9
Ouch, you strike a nerve here chknltl Apr 2015 #10
if the local cops know him mopinko Apr 2015 #11
You are in a really difficult situation and I feel for you. cbayer Apr 2015 #12
Most here are asking about Jeff, so I'll talk about him and our family chknltl Apr 2015 #13
Jeff is so very lucky to have you and your brother. cbayer Apr 2015 #15
Thanks, you understand now. chknltl Apr 2015 #16
the trailer idea sounds really good. cbayer Apr 2015 #19
Last week the Secretary of HUD announced that HUD was JimDandy Apr 2015 #20
I alerted Ron to this chknltl Apr 2015 #21
Is he a "good" driver? hunter May 2015 #22
I wouldn't know about his driving ability. chknltl May 2015 #23
I was living in Southern California and had a question I needed to ask a prominent U.C. Berkeley... hunter May 2015 #24
Jeff has his moments chknltl May 2015 #25
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