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29. VFIAX - VANGUARD = member-owned. And Vgd S&P 500 fund has grown 42-fold since 1976 inception
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 03:09 PM
Apr 2013

VFIAX = Vanguard S&P 500 Index Fund, Admiral shares ($10,000 minimum investment required) -- 0.05% expense ratio. Wow. Didn't know it was that low. http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/fund/VFIAX

I tend to follow VFINX - Vanguard S&P 500 Index Fund, Investor shares ($3,000 minimum investment required) because of its longevity -- inception 8/31/76.

Per thestreet.com http://www.thestreet.com/quote/VFINX.html

VFINX since inception: 10.75%/year average annualized return (last update 4/26/13 547p ET) inception = 8/31/76.

Unfortunately, it doesn't show the cumulative return, but that's easy enough to calculate:

It is 36.65 years between 8/31/76 and 4/26/13, according to Excel. So...

1.1075^36.65 = 42.19, i.e. a factor of 42.

Meaning, $1,000 put in in 8/31/76 is now worth $42,190 now, i.e. a 42-fold increase plus change.

Now this is all after expenses. This is not an investment in a theoretical index. This is not Wall Street's take. It is an investment in a real-world fund. It is what Joe six-pack would have gotten for his $1,000 investment on 8/31/76.

It is also not cherry-picking some best-performing fund, although, no doubt it is one of the best because of its low expense ratio and that index funds outperform just about any actively managed fund over the long haul. Similar results would be found if one invested in a growth index fund. Or a value index fund. Or a small cap index fund. Or a mid-cap index fund. Or another large-cap index fund. Or even an international index fund. Unfortunately few (if any?) index funds go back that far. Its not like the S&P 500 has outrun all other sectors of the market.

There was the famous Peter Lynch / Fidelity ad that I remember seeing. Well I googled this and found this from 2001:

http://www.rbcpa.com/peterlynchcommentary20010920.pdf

Since World War II, despite nine recessions and many other economic setbacks, corporate earnings are up 63 fold and the stock market is up 71 fold. Corporate profits per share have grown over 9% annually despite the down years. Nine percent may not sound like a lot but consider that it means that profits mathematically double every 8 years, quadruple every 16, are up 16 fold every 32 years, and are up 64 fold every 48 years."


I just can't understand how some DU types can complain about how corporate profits are an ever-bigger share of the economy (while wages/salaries are an ever-declining share). And how profitable the corporations are blah blah blah. And then in another post they will say I'm way too smart to invest in the stock market.

Well, the stock market is investments in corporations, and earnings (profits) drive share prices and provide dividends.





Not sure I understand what they are saying BlueStreak Apr 2013 #1
You're missing a lot of the fine print Warpy Apr 2013 #4
Are you saying that the load the Morningstar (and others) report is not accurate? BlueStreak Apr 2013 #6
I wouldn't call it hogwash, but it's misleading at best Major Nikon Apr 2013 #17
They would have been a lot more credible if they had gone with ... BlueStreak Apr 2013 #19
Agreed. And if a 401k only offers only high-fee funds and has a high management fee progree Apr 2013 #22
Agreed. I have been in 4 different employer 401Ks BlueStreak Apr 2013 #24
Yep, all the hot-shot investors joked about my IRA... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #26
It wouldn't surprise me if some employers have so trapped their employees Major Nikon Apr 2013 #23
A friend of mine had his 401K invested in a "semi-agressive" portfolio CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #27
I've always looked at stocks as a long term investment Major Nikon Apr 2013 #31
This was a good, and scary, piece Lifelong Protester Apr 2013 #2
Excerpt here: NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #3
I Don't Know What Ms Martens Meant to Say, On the Road Apr 2013 #9
I have mixed emotions about this BlueStreak Apr 2013 #14
I Agree That the Concern is Valid On the Road Apr 2013 #25
In the companies where I have worked, 95% of CEO compensation BlueStreak Apr 2013 #28
VFIAX - VANGUARD = member-owned. And Vgd S&P 500 fund has grown 42-fold since 1976 inception progree Apr 2013 #29
Sorry, but I have a problem with this article... brooklynite Apr 2013 #5
Manage your own investment Dan de Lyons Apr 2013 #7
It is possible, but most people don't do better BlueStreak Apr 2013 #8
Some how not all all unbelievable CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #10
This is pure nonsense (broad-brushing). My 401(k) was mostly invested in Vanguard index funds progree Apr 2013 #11
Bogle recommends investing in index funds nt No Vested Interest Apr 2013 #13
I am a grateful Boglehead nt progree Apr 2013 #16
i invest in ebayables. wall street is a casino. only the HOUSE WINS. pansypoo53219 Apr 2013 #12
Not a bad idea for a chunk of your portfolio to be in such barterable things. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #15
I have been posting on this issue for ages. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #18
I'm not sure I'm following much of any of this progree Apr 2013 #21
Why does the tax deferral look so good on paper? JDPriestly Apr 2013 #30
Tax deferral works even when tax rates are the same in retirement progree Apr 2013 #32
I agree that rental properties are not an alternative. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #34
Actually, I deployed some new money in REIT (Real Estate Investment Trusts) progree Apr 2013 #35
Deleted. I meant this to be in reply to #18. Sorry about that. nt progree Apr 2013 #20
Saving for later. Thanks for posting. n/t Laelth Apr 2013 #33
I hope you trash it for the garbage that it is nt progree Apr 2013 #36
I appreciate your insight on this subject. Laelth Apr 2013 #37
You're welcome. Please read #11 where the "2/3" figure came from. It is a hypothetical. progree Apr 2013 #38
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