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Flying Squirrel

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Wed Mar 13, 2013, 05:49 PM Mar 2013

This forum is the only reason I haven't left DU. [View all]

I refuse to post in GD or Politics 2013 anymore.

I'm gonna leave the rest of my original text here:

I honestly wish Obama had let the country slip into another Great Depression. What he's doing now is simply prolonging our misery. He's like the enabler who prevents an alcoholic from hitting bottom.

This country is too far gone to come back through ordinary political means. Only when the people have nothing left to lose will they be emboldened (en masse) to rise up and dismantle the corrupt system. Until then, any attempt to keep any portion of the New Deal intact does nothing but prolong this Chinese Water Torture.

At this point I'd like to see the Democratic Party stop deluding itself into thinking it is at all helping matters on those rare occasions when it actually fights against the corporatist takeover of America. I'd like to see us hit bottom, because only then can we truly wake up, wipe the cobwebs from our eyes and do what needs to be done.

This post can be hidden, but the truth behind it will remain.


Unfortunately, in attempting to defend this position, I've come up smack against another truth.

Both Doncoquixote and rhett o rick suggested that people might turn to the right instead of the left if a second Depression occurred. My first instinct was, this was simply not possible. Then I started to respond to the issue of my supposedly advocating people dying simply to further my own political agenda, by pointing out that people were already dying - just a few at a time instead of all at once - and that 4,000 killed in the WTC bombing caused major changes while twice as many killed over a year's period does nothing to change handgun laws.

As I'm sure you're beginning to see, I couldn't finish the post because I vehemently disagree with the resulting changes which resulted from the WTC bombing - and the re-election of George W. Bush shows the number of insane and ignorant people in this country, therefore I can not effectively argue that people would turn to the left nor that they would avoid turning toward a dictator. I can not effectively argue that we would end up with a New New Deal, because the country has changed since the 1930's - and has changed in favor of ignorance and government-sanctioned propaganda on our public airwaves. I can't predict a new FDR-like savior, nor that the country would rally behind him/her.

So I will take back my post opining that Obama should have let a second Depression occur. However, this does not mean in any way that I support what he has done in terms of the financial state of this country.
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I posted last night that we'll have to be content with social progress Warpy Mar 2013 #1
Sadly, I think you are right. Cleita Mar 2013 #2
not sad kardonb Mar 2013 #30
>you people< ?? Who the fuck are you? n/t jtuck004 Mar 2013 #32
I trhnk the derivatives collapse the first time around truedelphi Mar 2013 #4
I hear your frustration, Flying Squirrel Skittles Mar 2013 #3
I invite you to check out the Stock Market Watch and Weekend Economists threads Demeter Mar 2013 #5
A person with Nothing formercia Mar 2013 #6
A point well-known to Macchiavelli Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #22
Like a rolling stone. WheelWalker Mar 2013 #26
I honestly wish Obama had let the country slip into another Great Depression DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #7
Would you rather the Great Depression had not happened Flying Squirrel Mar 2013 #10
playing with time and human life DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #31
I think the idea is... sangsaran Mar 2013 #13
In the OP's defense, bvar22 Mar 2013 #15
It's a sad time for most who have nothing else... we see the truth fascisthunter Mar 2013 #8
"I honestly wish Obama had let the country slip into another Great Depression" NYC Liberal Mar 2013 #9
See post 10. Why don't you hide my OP? Flying Squirrel Mar 2013 #12
Who said I wanted to hide your OP? NYC Liberal Mar 2013 #17
I understand your frustration. I have gone to that place myself on more than one occasion. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #11
I agree that we should keep fighting Flying Squirrel Mar 2013 #14
I'm not sure any amount of suffering will improve our chances in the long term. sangsaran Mar 2013 #21
Sorry I dont understand. Elites rule. They always have and they always will. We just have to find rhett o rick Mar 2013 #23
+1 n/t Laelth Mar 2013 #27
Now I've seen everything Politicub Mar 2013 #16
Actually, you should be lamenting that "Job #1" has been to restore Wall Street... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #18
already left once... dtom67 Mar 2013 #19
Who led Occupy? Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #24
Occupy has promise, but.. dtom67 Mar 2013 #29
I have seen to spontaneous miracles of unity in my time kickysnana Mar 2013 #35
You're right but the people will never rise up they're too tired from work. craigmatic Mar 2013 #20
The time will come when they have no work. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #25
Or food. Enter peak oil and climate change into the equation ... Auggie Mar 2013 #28
unfortunately this is not a light switch situation tiredtoo Mar 2013 #33
Read Howard Zinn's caseymoz Mar 2013 #34
Kevin Phillips Wealth and Democracy builds a similar argument. motocicleta2 Mar 2013 #36
I would like to believe that, but . . . caseymoz Mar 2013 #38
I missed DU. motocicleta2 Mar 2013 #37
I could not agree more, with you and with the OP. This forum is one of the main sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #39
Hello ~ motocicleta2. Nice to see you back again at DU. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #41
Thanks! motocicleta2 Mar 2013 #42
Indeed! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #43
Look at Greece and the neo-NAZI "golden dawn" party, and until recently Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author antiquie Mar 2013 #44
I'm not an economist, I'm not anything approaching an expert. I'm simply attempting to synthesize Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #45
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