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ellisonz

(27,764 posts)
54. Why keep beating a straw man?
Fri May 11, 2012, 10:39 AM
May 2012

Occupy does not have the physical power to stop this, the police do, why don't you ask why they're more busy attacking unarmed protestors than stopping the black bloc types.

Many people, armed solely with moral authority, not lifting a finger in anger, can turn back a few bullies intent on chaos. You do it with numbers, you do it by making your disapproval clear. You use WORDS.


Occupy has made its disapproval clear.

Occupy Wall Street is a leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to achieve our ends and encourage the use of nonviolence to maximize the safety of all participants.

This #ows movement empowers real people to create real change from the bottom up. We want to see a general assembly in every backyard, on every street corner because we don't need Wall Street and we don't need politicians to build a better society.

http://occupywallst.org/


What you are advocating is aggressive confrontation likely to provoke violence. Honestly, ignoring the anarchists is probably the best way to neutralize them otherwise they have succeeded in co-opting the movement. BTW - when was the last time you went out in the streets and protested?

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SF, Seattle and Cleveland eridani May 2012 #1
And what will M$M cover about May Day 2012? freshwest May 2012 #5
They could be paid to go in and do this...these people could movonne May 2012 #11
The occupy movement will be marked by this liberal N proud May 2012 #2
just like the 60's oldhippydude May 2012 #3
I don't blame them. LASlibinSC May 2012 #4
We have a few blame memes in this country that have gotten completely out of hand and are untrue. freshwest May 2012 #6
Manipulated storylines - just like VVAW was infiltrated by RW agents in the 60s to discredit blm May 2012 #7
It seems that Occupy is more vulnerable than those movements. But we have to remember how long those freshwest May 2012 #8
they will continue to disrupt as long as it works G_j May 2012 #16
Yes... LASlibinSC May 2012 #9
I realize that the Occupy Movement likes to be "organic" and "leaderless" MADem May 2012 #10
the friggin borg? U4ikLefty May 2012 #13
Isn't that what consensus is--a borg of sorts? MADem May 2012 #14
Your "frigging borg" comment was a dig on Occupy...don't pretend. U4ikLefty May 2012 #17
No it was not. You need to stop telling people what they think about things and how they feel about MADem May 2012 #18
Your words betray your cries to the contrary. U4ikLefty May 2012 #19
No they don't. And if those are your examples of "unpraiseworthy" posts, your skin is paper thin. MADem May 2012 #20
More insults & still no pro-Occupy posts. Hmmmm U4ikLefty May 2012 #21
The insult flinger is in your mirror. MADem May 2012 #22
How do you propose to keep people like this away from a public event? ellisonz May 2012 #23
Point-n-mock works well. If a hundred (or two hundred) people surround, isolate and shout at MADem May 2012 #25
Your answer is the use of unlawful force. ellisonz May 2012 #26
Force, Schmorce. Pointing and mocking and yelling at lawbreakers is "unlawful force?" MADem May 2012 #27
*le sigh* ellisonz May 2012 #28
"Le Helpless Poor Me" is what you're giving me. MADem May 2012 #33
You seem very angry... ellisonz May 2012 #34
"You seem very angry" is what people say when they don't have a meaningful answer to the points MADem May 2012 #35
And now you're projecting... ellisonz May 2012 #36
You continue to try to make this about me. Waaah, you're angry, waaaah, you're projecting! MADem May 2012 #39
"unlawful force" ellisonz May 2012 #41
Oh, bullshit. MADem May 2012 #44
Moral authority without actual authority is little authority at all. ellisonz May 2012 #45
Then why OCCUPY? Your comment makes no sense! MADem May 2012 #49
No, it's your comments that make no sense pinboy3niner May 2012 #50
Yes, you have a debate. Really. MADem May 2012 #51
It's obvious that you don't have a clue about what Occupiers in the streets are doing... pinboy3niner May 2012 #52
I have eyes and I can see. MADem May 2012 #53
You think Occupiers haven't confronted disruptors, en masse? pinboy3niner May 2012 #55
Well, that's different from what I was hearing before. MADem May 2012 #58
Why keep beating a straw man? ellisonz May 2012 #54
Great post pinboy3niner May 2012 #56
I try to keep it real. ellisonz May 2012 #57
That's the thing though--they haven't made their disapproval clear. MADem May 2012 #59
You know anything else about Oakland & January 28th? U4ikLefty May 2012 #29
Of course that's how the police behave...that's their expected behavior. limpyhobbler May 2012 #30
Here's a video to provide some context. U4ikLefty May 2012 #37
Yeah that video is awesome. limpyhobbler May 2012 #47
Nice to see an honest response...thanks!!! U4ikLefty May 2012 #60
Gee, and you are blaming ME? MADem May 2012 #32
Don't blame me for your ignorance. U4ikLefty May 2012 #38
I am not the ignorant one, here. You have a nice day, now! MADem May 2012 #40
That's all you've got? U4ikLefty May 2012 #42
You're plainly unclear on the concept. MADem May 2012 #43
Broken Record. U4ikLefty May 2012 #46
That's not accurate, either. NT MADem May 2012 #48
I'm Ashamed IvanTheRed1233 May 2012 #31
ACORN LASlibinSC May 2012 #12
I've never understood why nobody has ever tried to get O'Keefe the same way. Chan790 May 2012 #24
Just following the military RobertEarl May 2012 #15
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