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In reply to the discussion: Occupy Cleveland canceled May Day protest plans to march in the city because of this: [View all]ellisonz
(27,759 posts)41. "unlawful force"
Occupy does not have the legal authority to expel any group from a public space, and the distinct impression I get is that you have not been at a street protest lately. That's not bad manners and that's not avoiding the debate topic. That's stating the obvious.
25. Point-n-mock works well. If a hundred (or two hundred) people surround, isolate and shout at
troublemakers to leave, while filming them and putting it up on the net, they'll pretty much know they aren't welcome. (Impractical, illegal)
The "that's not cool, man" paradigm of the sixties doesn't work in this day and age. You've got to get up in their grille--non-violently, of course, but with extreme purpose. Remove their little hoodies and disguises so we can see them--that'll help, too. (Impractical, illegal)
troublemakers to leave, while filming them and putting it up on the net, they'll pretty much know they aren't welcome. (Impractical, illegal)
The "that's not cool, man" paradigm of the sixties doesn't work in this day and age. You've got to get up in their grille--non-violently, of course, but with extreme purpose. Remove their little hoodies and disguises so we can see them--that'll help, too. (Impractical, illegal)
Your hypothetical confrontation is absurd, I don't know why you're in the Occupy group telling posters that they need to initiate a confrontation that is likely to become physical and suggesting acts that are by definition assault. Why are you here?
P.S. The Personal is Political!
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Occupy Cleveland canceled May Day protest plans to march in the city because of this: [View all]
freshwest
May 2012
OP
We have a few blame memes in this country that have gotten completely out of hand and are untrue.
freshwest
May 2012
#6
Manipulated storylines - just like VVAW was infiltrated by RW agents in the 60s to discredit
blm
May 2012
#7
It seems that Occupy is more vulnerable than those movements. But we have to remember how long those
freshwest
May 2012
#8
No it was not. You need to stop telling people what they think about things and how they feel about
MADem
May 2012
#18
No they don't. And if those are your examples of "unpraiseworthy" posts, your skin is paper thin.
MADem
May 2012
#20
Point-n-mock works well. If a hundred (or two hundred) people surround, isolate and shout at
MADem
May 2012
#25
Force, Schmorce. Pointing and mocking and yelling at lawbreakers is "unlawful force?"
MADem
May 2012
#27
"You seem very angry" is what people say when they don't have a meaningful answer to the points
MADem
May 2012
#35
You continue to try to make this about me. Waaah, you're angry, waaaah, you're projecting!
MADem
May 2012
#39
It's obvious that you don't have a clue about what Occupiers in the streets are doing...
pinboy3niner
May 2012
#52