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rhett o rick

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18. What is being discussed here should have it's own thread in GD. I think it is where we
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:20 PM
Apr 2012

are, and very important. It's almost Spring.

I very much appreciate your defensiveness (meant in a good way) re the co-option of Occupy. I agree with you. However, if I may w/o causing trouble, submit my opinion (hoping lightening wont strike).

First of all "Bless Occupy" and "Viva la-Occupy".

But as I see it Occupy isnt The Movement. Occupy is part of The Movement. Occupy certainly has everyone's attention, both the 1% and the 99%. Occupy shouldnt changed or co-opted. However, there are many of us out here that arent Occupy'ers and I dont think you want us to be. We want to participate in The Movement. In fact some of us have been participating in one way or another for a long time.

I love the concepts of Occupy but call me old fashion, I think sooner or later we are going to need a political system that represents the 99%. We will need to elect representatives and pass legislation. I agree we cant rely on the current parties to bring this about w/o significant pressure.

What I see in the 99% Spring is a good thing. Granted it isnt too organized but I wouldnt think Occupy would hold that against them. They recognize the tremendous value of non-violent protests. I think they are inspired by Occupy and ready to support The Movement in their own way. I also believe that many that get the training will join Occupy.

MoveOn.org claims to have 5 million members. I have been to a number of their local events and most are over 50. They most likely wont be Occupying but want to participate.

Sorry for rambling and I hope this makes some kind of sense.

Do it! I've already signed up. snot Apr 2012 #1
NOT Occupy. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #2
Fire Walk, Hi!! So what is this 99% Spring then? Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #3
Why not? Appropriating slogans spreads the meme n/t eridani Apr 2012 #66
I agree n/t Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #75
That's true... limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #4
Shit < > Shinola Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #5
Fire Walk, do you think they are starving Occupy for support or cash Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #6
Perhaps they're trying to harness the energy of Occupy toward the Dems U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #7
And if anyone has a problem with it, they should talk to A. Philip Randolph Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #8
Sorry, I don't get your point. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #9
Sorry, I should have been more clear. A. Philip Randolph kicked off the Civil Rights movement by Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #9
"99% Spring is a bust at co-opting Occupy Wall Street" Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #12
What is being discussed here should have it's own thread in GD. I think it is where we rhett o rick Apr 2012 #18
Please read the two new article I've just posted. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #21
I am around that age and I Occupy. The problem is Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #22
Great post Fire. Thanks for all you give to Occupy. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #24
Great post, friend. "We are the answer... Zorra Apr 2012 #25
San Francisco Recorder Claims 99% of LOANs contain irregularities and 84% contain VIOLATIONS OF LAW Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #13
Thanks for the links, Fire Walk! Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #16
The “99% Spring” Brings Co-optation into Full Bloom Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #19
I understand where you are coming from on this...for sure.. KoKo Apr 2012 #30
Battle for the soul of Occupy Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #20
Glad to see your posts in this group. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #35
Exactly. Thanks for posting this. People need to join Occupy to join in true democracy. this is serious Apr 2012 #64
It's fine that they are organizing, and probably is a good thing, but they should NOT sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #58
I guess some people could get confused. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #61
Why not? The 99% meme changed the national conversation almost overnight eridani Apr 2012 #69
No, I am advocating that when people use it, they make it clear who they are. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #71
The more it spreads, the more that people not at all related to Occupy eridani Apr 2012 #72
People were confused, including me. I thought this training program was an OWS sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #73
Yep. 99% Spring is an assemblage of organizations, movements, etc, that Occupy has co-opted Zorra Apr 2012 #11
So if 99% Spring has failed to co-opt Occupy, and Occupy has co-opted 99% spring, Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #15
We collectively lead the way, like we did to finally get them interested Zorra Apr 2012 #17
The PEOPLE and THEIR ISSUES ...FORGE ON...PAST THE TURF WARS! KoKo Apr 2012 #31
"Stop believing in authority. Start believing in each other." Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #23
I hear ya on that :-) Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #32
I attended a 99% training this weekend. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #26
I went to one too. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #27
Thanks! Zorra Apr 2012 #28
I have the same perspective as you... Thanks J.D. Priestly... We all do what we can do KoKo Apr 2012 #29
Thanks J.D. Your post was very reassuring to me about the prospects for these workshops Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #33
Just Remember that there are folks DOING WHAT THEY CAN..Maybe they are Infiltrated..Maybe Not KoKo Apr 2012 #34
Of course, it may depend on where the 99% meetings took place. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #37
If you think all that Occupy does is sleep in tents then you know nothing of Occupy. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #36
I definitely do not think that all Occupy does is sleep in tents, JDPriestly Apr 2012 #38
Why not instead seek out your local Occupation? Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #39
From my training, I did not have the impression that they were two separate movements. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #41
Utterly separate. Occupy eschews politics and politicians Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #42
It may depend on the local 99% movement. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #43
No. Just "NO". Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #44
Do you want lots of people to support Occupy? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #45
From the amount of honking and peace signs we get when we march, Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #46
Fire, you're on fire tonight!! U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #48
But do you want more support than just honking horns? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #49
I thank you for your concern. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #50
Your true colors are showing. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #52
I have visited two Occupy camps in two cities. That is how I got the impression JDPriestly Apr 2012 #53
So now we ARE inclusive? U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #54
The problem with the GAs is that they occur late at night. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #56
We have older folks & disabled folks all over the GA every night. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #57
Exactly! Disabled people can attend just as well as anybody. this is serious Apr 2012 #67
I'm older. I'm disabled. I don't always have money for the bus. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #60
You are an inspiration sir! this is serious Apr 2012 #65
Your sarcasm runneth over. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #74
Exactly! "No affiliation or support of politicians and political parties." this is serious Apr 2012 #68
Thank you for your good intent Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #40
Everyone in this thread should see this article. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #47
Seriously, especially the final paragraph. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #51
I read the Daily Kos diary, and I agree. However, I do not think it will work. It's fine that they sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #62
Yes! The two groups should be kept separate as much as possible. this is serious Apr 2012 #70
Hey Fire, I stopped at that taco truck and realized U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #55
= 1.5 tacos. Think man, THINK ;) Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #59
I hope NOBODY is actually buying into this 99% Spring HOAX this is serious Apr 2012 #63
What I want to know is where the f--- is the legit Occupy and how can we have a 99% spring Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #76
Of course when I say "they" I should add Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #77
What city do you live in? U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #78
There was supposed to be Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #79
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