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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
14. O'Malley's problem is that he's a lot of people's second choice.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jan 2016

Clinton supporters say we can't go into the general election with a septuagenarian democratic socialist. Sanders supporters say that Clinton Derangement Syndrome would bring Republicans out of the woodwork to vote against her. O'Malley is subject to neither of these problems and, IMO, is the Democrat who'd have the best chance of winning in November.

On the Republican side, people sometimes talk about the "social conservative/evangelical lane" and the "Establishment lane" as being how the race will be winnowed down to two. On the Democratic side, O'Malley has no obvious lane.
* People who are happy with the party establishment have assumed for years that Clinton will be the nominee, and they're backing her.
* People who reject Clinton as too corporatist/hawkish/etc. want an emphatic rejection of politics as usual. Between Sanders and O'Malley, there isn't all that much daylight in terms of policy, but Sanders is more unconventional on style factors. The very factors that Clinton supporters point to, as problems for Sanders in November, are part of his appeal to the "insurrectionist" forces in the party. Nominating Sanders would be a clear departure from politics as usual.

At this point, it's very unlikely (though not impossible) that O'Malley will catch fire and go to the Convention with a plurality of delegates, let alone a majority. The most plausible path to an O'Malley nomination is that he gets out of the single digits, to do somewhat better, while neither Clinton nor Sanders can achieve a knockout. If the Convention delegates are split 40-40-20 or some such, after the first ballot (or after a few) some of the delegates in each of the larger camps might decide, "Well, at least O'Malley is better than that other leading candidate."

I think it far more likely that either Clinton or Sanders will have a majority of the delegates once the primaries end.

I don't think O'Malley is running for VP. If he were, he wouldn't have criticized "triangulation" as he did, nor would he have gone after Sanders on gun control. If his main goal were his personal advancement, then, when Barbara Mikulski announced her retirement, he would have dropped his Presidential campaign and run for her seat. At that point it was already apparent that his campaign results were disappointing and that Sanders had sewn up the "outsider/insurrectionist" lane.

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K&R one_voice Jan 2016 #1
Yes, it's a damn shame he has been shut out. His voice needs to be heard. antigop Jan 2016 #2
You're welcome, antigop. elleng Jan 2016 #3
Yes, thanks and keep it up, Elleng. This is not the last Hortensis Jan 2016 #7
Marty Is A Buffer between Bernie And Hillary While Secondarily IF NOT PRIMARILY CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #13
My hionest opinion? I think.... Armstead Jan 2016 #4
IMO, MOM's problem was marketing, and a Hortensis Jan 2016 #9
The sincerity factor is STRONG with Sanders. MoM had no NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #11
Young, good looking, newblewtoo Jan 2016 #5
+1 one_voice Jan 2016 #8
The O'Malley fiasco in Ohio has caused me much concern with MO'M. 99Forever Jan 2016 #6
this was never meant to be a real primary restorefreedom Jan 2016 #10
k one_voice Jan 2016 #12
O'Malley's problem is that he's a lot of people's second choice. Jim Lane Jan 2016 #14
Right that elleng Jan 2016 #15
The biggest reason I support Bernie Sanders Eric J in MN Jan 2016 #22
Hillary was suppose to get through the primary sleep walking. The entire process was rigged for JRLeft Jan 2016 #16
Right, and now EVERYONE's 'nervous.' elleng Jan 2016 #17
All of the cheating and obstacles for her opponents and she hasn't put this thing away yet. JRLeft Jan 2016 #18
NO WAY for ANYONE to 'put this thing away' elleng Jan 2016 #19
If Bernie wins Iowa and New Hampshire, he probably makes up a lot ground in the south. JRLeft Jan 2016 #20
Not sure how that would work, elleng Jan 2016 #21
If Bernie Sanders wins both IA and NH, then he'll get more donations Eric J in MN Jan 2016 #23
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