2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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110. Bullshit, He has to try to gain traction with EVERYONE just like any candidate

Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:46 AM

Sep 2015

No African Americans are not excited about a candidate they have never heard of, just like 80 percent of the country had never heard of him.

And their enthusiasm has been dampened by lies spread by opportunistic opponents of Sanders.

The whole "coincidence" that BLN targeted Sanders as the first candidate they "challenged" in a disruptive manner gave ammo to his political opponents who, in a moment of Rovian distortion, decided to use that to totally distort everything about who Sanders really is and what he really stands for....Thus setting up a divisive campaign to desperate identity politics from the larger issues. It is especially disgusting because Sanders is one of the most committed candidates to social justice and civil rights there is.

Fuck that noise. It is NOT legitimate debate or objective analysis.

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Bernie Sanders’ Problems With Black Voters Go Much Deeper Than Him Just Blaming The Media (WaPo) [View all] big_dog Sep 2015 OP

I don't think there is a problem with Bernie Sanders and black voters Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #1

The "so what" ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #2

Then supporters of Clinton should rejoice. frylock Sep 2015 #4

No. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #8

Okay. That had absolutely nothing with the topic, but okay.. frylock Sep 2015 #13

Oh, yes ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #30

Do you think Benghazi won't come up if Clinton were to win the nomination? frylock Sep 2015 #32

Oh, I've no doubt there will be. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #44

you're arguing with yourself ibegurpard Sep 2015 #97

She misspelled Clinton's BernGhazi problems. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #34

You should start rejoicing artislife Sep 2015 #74

Then Hillary will just win. Black people don't have to be into Bernie Sanders Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #5

Yes, Hillary will be the nominee. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #12

FDR: "Only a foolish optimist can deny the dark realities of the moment." AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #50

Considering that the economic disparities between blacks and whites Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #64

Reading your posts is a learning experience Scootaloo Sep 2015 #75

Tanks for this post. Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #65

See, thing is... it's not enough that Clinton win. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #83

Good post Gothmog Sep 2015 #111

This is massive disinformation…black voters are getting to know Sanders... CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #98

^^ THIS ^^ Qutzupalotl Sep 2015 #105

In SC, Hillary's lead has been cut in half LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #107

Wow, that is interesting... CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #120

So it's gonna be a Bernie Sanders has a problem with Black people kinda week I guess. frylock Sep 2015 #3

Well, actually ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #33

I have every confidence that the issue will be overcome. frylock Sep 2015 #56

Then good on ya! NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #62

Yes the people who spread lies about Sanders have done their job well Armstead Sep 2015 #103

It's been that kind of couple of months, why should this week be any different? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #101

I'm convinced the entire purpose of WaPo in this election is to stir shit. ellisonz Sep 2015 #6

Of course it is. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #9

I'm totally agreement in with you, Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #10

And aloha to you! ellisonz Sep 2015 #21

Hi ellisonz! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #90

You are welcome scottie! ellisonz Sep 2015 #116

:D beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #117

Well, that's awlays the job of mainstream media, bith legitimately and not-so-much Armstead Sep 2015 #104

The list of Hillary supporter's accusations of racism grow and grow. Updated here. Bonobo Sep 2015 #7

Thank you. Getting tired of this. ancianita Sep 2015 #17

It is what it is, unfortunately. Black folk are not "feeling the Bern" brush Sep 2015 #19

What has Hillary Clinton ever done to get a free pass on institutional racism? mhatrw Sep 2015 #67

Ahhh . . . I was talking about the Sanders campaign's choice of a surrogate brush Sep 2015 #76

and I was talking about the elephant in the room mhatrw Sep 2015 #78

Okay keep on with that, but the Sanders campaign . . . brush Sep 2015 #86

and surveys and polls consistently show that a large number say they don't know enough about him magical thyme Sep 2015 #114

False. Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #118

Pointing out that BS isn't gaining any traction with AAs ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #23

It is implied AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #31

No, actually it's not. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #46

Word salad fail AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #54

The maestro at work: Scootaloo Sep 2015 #88

From a paragraph in the OP Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #36

Of course. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #52

Of course Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #61

Dean screamed; Muskie cried; Sanders slurred n/t mhatrw Sep 2015 #113

If it was pushed and pushed, then yes. It would be akin to an accusation of anti-semitism. Bonobo Sep 2015 #37

I think we both know how it's played. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #58

Nance, the quantity in this is at least as relevant as the quality. Bonobo Sep 2015 #60

The "intention" is in the eye of the reader. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #66

Yes, but this isn't quantum physics. The observer does not change the quantity. Bonobo Sep 2015 #70

"Support of rightwing Christian fundamentalists" . . . brush Sep 2015 #115

He is gaining traction with AA voters virtualobserver Sep 2015 #47

If you believe that HRC ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #71

polls are only useful in showing trends virtualobserver Sep 2015 #81

So we should believe the polls when it comes to African Americans, but disbelieve them when it comes Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #94

NanceGreggs, your rhetorical device for the evening is... Scootaloo Sep 2015 #51

Pointing out the obvious ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #68

Study, Nance. Study. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #73

Oh, okay. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #77

You've giving a fine demonstration, Nance. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #80

"But I WON'T study the polls showing Hillary losing support with women LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #108

Bullshit, He has to try to gain traction with EVERYONE just like any candidate Armstead Sep 2015 #110

Yeah, they just attack and attack jfern Sep 2015 #28

They have to keep the meme running. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #38

wow, quite a list 6chars Sep 2015 #69

But what we really need is artislife Sep 2015 #79

Hey Bonobo! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #95

It would be locked as Meta. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #106

I am the OP of one of the threads you listed and it is not racist to report the facts Gothmog Sep 2015 #112

Weird. Because Sanders specifically points out in his speeches that the economic elite use race to Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #11

RIGHT? ancianita Sep 2015 #14

They know, but too much of the corporate media just doesn't care, they have their memes Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #18

It's obvious that they are false. Maedhros Sep 2015 #84

I think most Democrats who don't support Sanders jfern Sep 2015 #55

Does Sander really not understand that divide and conquer has been used to create capital McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #15

Bernie has stated repeatedly that he nor anyone else can do it alone, that's why he's Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #20

Yes. And he mentions divide and conquer in every speech. IN EVERY SPEECH. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #22

... ancianita Sep 2015 #24

Thank you. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #29

...tired...image memes are all I'm about right now... ancianita Sep 2015 #39

He may not fix America, but at least azmom Sep 2015 #35

Bachelor Degrees should be at 50 % whether it be black or white. rusty quoin Sep 2015 #16

This guy wrote a column recently about how The left "has won Clinton over". DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #25

You have to be fucking kidding me. The azmom Sep 2015 #41

I'm guessing you've formed the same opinion of this young columnist that I have. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #43

It seems that he is saying azmom Sep 2015 #48

This crap again AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #26

Both are true. Racism and the founding of our country are linked. But it is also true liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #27

Racism is the basis of the exploitation of "minorities" before this country's founding. Racism wiped ancianita Sep 2015 #42

Hahaha!!!! Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #49

I'm very happy to see you believe in recycling, big_dog. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #45

You are a gem...nt artislife Sep 2015 #82

Naw, more of a rhinestone. But thanks! Scootaloo Sep 2015 #87

That BLM quote is something like 2 months old. [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2015 #85

The establishment keeps on driving that wedge. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #53

How demeaning for all involved. Hillary's campaign = UNC's athletic department mhatrw Sep 2015 #57

. mmonk Sep 2015 #99

Oh? Meet the Group of African-American Organizers Building Black Support for Bernie Sanders PatrickforO Sep 2015 #59

Bull hockey. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #63

Substitute Hillary Clinton for "Bernie Sanders", and Liberal Voters for "Black Voters" and you've Indepatriot Sep 2015 #72

Yet somehow.... Bohemianwriter Sep 2015 #89

Bernie doesn't poll well with black voters yet. Nothing more, nothing less. reformist2 Sep 2015 #91

Once again DISTORTING Sander's position. Surprised - NO. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #92

Oh noez! 99Forever Sep 2015 #93

The South Carolina and Super Tuesday primaries will be fun to watch Gothmog Sep 2015 #96

Things Bernie never said, "..racism is somehow an offshoot from economic exploitation". aikoaiko Sep 2015 #100

Yeah, let's keep arguing about "chickens and eggs" so nothing will really change Armstead Sep 2015 #102

His problems are well documented. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #109

HRC's problems with institutional Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #119