2016 Postmortem

billhicks76

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118. I First Noticed In '91

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:52 PM

Aug 2015

Last edited Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Bill came out of nowhere rising through the primary as an unknown centrist. Perot had joined the race to intentionally derail Bush Sr who he didn't trust and knew many a scandal about. It became obvious to me Bush Sr had been controlling the national security apparatus since being CIA Director in '75 and running the Reagan White House from '80-'88 and then taking over completely in '88-'92. I watched the PBS Roundtable Primary Debate where Bill threatened Jerry Brown over exposing the first private prisons and Bill and Sam Nunns connections to them. Bill turned beet red and wagged his finger angrily at Jerry stating," You don't know what you're messing with, Jerry." Ive never seen someone threatened like that on live TV. The implication was clear to me...things had already been decided and Clinton was the Bush hand selected opposition candidate in case he didn't win and Perot split the vote. Scary indeed.

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Coulter Repeats What is Becoming Obvious to the GOP: They Don’t Want to Run Against Bernie [View all] NorthCarolina Aug 2015 OP

Every now and then, they slip and tell the truth notadmblnd Aug 2015 #1

+1 daleanime Aug 2015 #36

I'm sure Faux Newz has reams of... tex-wyo-dem Aug 2015 #111

That's only because ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #173

Right. The fact they want to run against Sec'y Clinton has nothing to do with the fact DonViejo Aug 2015 #140

Faux News ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #174

I've never said anything against HRC notadmblnd Aug 2015 #178

It's a slip up alright because they never intend to tell the truth. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #150

Not only that but the GOP Nite Owl Aug 2015 #2

Being Screwed By Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Is A Universal Narrative cantbeserious Aug 2015 #9

Hillary And Bill Big Bush Supporters billhicks76 Aug 2015 #101

Funny That Turn Of Affairs - Seems Others Would Notice As Well cantbeserious Aug 2015 #105

I First Noticed In '91 billhicks76 Aug 2015 #118

Great Insight - Thank You cantbeserious Aug 2015 #125

He had the attention of party leadership, though, much earlier. MADem Aug 2015 #166

He showed his "national intentions" back when he was a teenager and met John Kennedy. George II Aug 2015 #176

And during the 1980 Democratic Convention -- he clearly had national ambitions anneboleyn Aug 2015 #179

Sure, but he was at that youth government thing with tons of other kids. He didn't stand out, yet~ MADem Aug 2015 #183

I Heard Bush Team Harassed Perot's Daughter At Her Wedding billhicks76 Aug 2015 #180

Ross Perot ran E Systems in Iran in the Shah days. He was noted for taking superb care of his MADem Aug 2015 #181

GM and EDS billhicks76 Aug 2015 #182

Jury decision: 1monster Aug 2015 #177

And they need to feel the Bern. WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2015 #163

they can bring up the pedo scandal with Bill and she is done roguevalley Aug 2015 #23

Lol! Anyone still out there promoting that crap? zappaman Aug 2015 #32

What??? sufrommich Aug 2015 #40

seriously? passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #71

I'm perfectly fine with Hillary Plucketeer Aug 2015 #94

Hillary is the one you need to worry about. Not Bill passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #96

"Wears the pants"??? ncjustice80 Aug 2015 #103

It's what I grew up on passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #113

Reverse it "Bill wears the skirt in that family" demwing Aug 2015 #137

Jesus H. Christ !! Cheviteau Aug 2015 #167

It's still sexist, wether you think of it as or not Lordquinton Aug 2015 #170

You've got a point. passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #172

Because nowadays ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #175

Look up Lordquinton Aug 2015 #184

If the point is ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #185

The point is that it has always been offencive Lordquinton Aug 2015 #186

There are a lot of offensive things out there- just becuase people are offended by them doens't make ncjustice80 Aug 2015 #187

Not to mention tons of Independent voters. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #58

That Ann Coulter...so helpful to Democrats. Metric System Aug 2015 #3

Amazing! yallerdawg Aug 2015 #4

Well, she also said... TDale313 Aug 2015 #7

She shows how afraid Republicans are of Bernie Sanders. senz Aug 2015 #17

She was right about Romney being the nominee and then losing. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #153

Yeah... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #156

Nice. Ann Coulter promoted at DU. onehandle Aug 2015 #5

Ann Coulter is just giving helpful advice to Democrats. Don't you trust her intentions? Metric System Aug 2015 #6

No... malokvale77 Aug 2015 #11

On national tv? SonderWoman Aug 2015 #21

Where else... malokvale77 Aug 2015 #54

Since when is Fox News "Democrats?" senz Aug 2015 #26

No worries. It's not like Bernie would accept big money donors if they oasis Aug 2015 #37

So FOX news are Hillary Democrats? KelleyKramer Aug 2015 #131

You're the one twisting my words like a pretzel. And who are "your people"? Do you mean fellow Metric System Aug 2015 #141

"promoted?" This thread isn't "promoting" her. senz Aug 2015 #22

No one is promoting Ann Coulter. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #25

Isn't that something. This isn't the first time either where a right wing opinion against Hillary still_one Aug 2015 #129

Yes, of course. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #8

Wait,are you saying that you don't really believe sufrommich Aug 2015 #10

Hey, call me crazy! NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #20

I have personally seen comments on rightwing sites... SonderWoman Aug 2015 #27

But what Coulter said is the opposite. OPPOSITE. senz Aug 2015 #28

Yeah, well ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #119

Oh, I don't doubt it! NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #49

Exactly! Andy823 Aug 2015 #34

Over the last 8 years I've seen plenty of criticism of PBO navarth Aug 2015 #61

That's funny Andy823 Aug 2015 #126

If you say so navarth Aug 2015 #142

Every time an issue came up treestar Aug 2015 #192

and there were those that thought otherwise. navarth Aug 2015 #194

Hey, funny story ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #110

I saw one asking if Bernie supporters caused dandruff Andy823 Aug 2015 #127

My favorites were treestar Aug 2015 #193

I hear ya! NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #196

When I read stuff like what you've written tea and oranges Aug 2015 #104

Coulter is probably correct. You really hate running against an unknown. Bernie is a known. HRC isn' LiberalArkie Aug 2015 #82

Perhaps they just dread running against someone who is not as corrupt as they themselves are Jemmons Aug 2015 #161

Bernie polls ahead of them, too. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #13

I wonder...Hillary and the Republicans are like a bad marriage...same old issues, libdem4life Aug 2015 #12

Naaaaaaaah... BooScout Aug 2015 #19

Socialist and Communist will be gone with the Primary. And trying to libdem4life Aug 2015 #30

We are talking FAUX news here... BooScout Aug 2015 #43

Just a note: Meghan Kelly has "taken a vacation". libdem4life Aug 2015 #53

So the right wingers are warming to the far left candidate? BooScout Aug 2015 #57

Uh, yes. It's going around the political circles. libdem4life Aug 2015 #68

From your link.... BooScout Aug 2015 #76

Yes, and....? libdem4life Aug 2015 #78

Clinton will be voted by Establishment Democrats in the primaries Picking Dem Aug 2015 #85

Not to mention, murielm99 Aug 2015 #135

Hillary went right along with those muslim accusations, too. senz Aug 2015 #134

So your point is ... TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #35

MY point is FAUX LIES..... BooScout Aug 2015 #45

No, NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #80

they have nothing restorefreedom Aug 2015 #39

Do you really think those smears ... BooScout Aug 2015 #51

what might those smears be? ish of the hammer Aug 2015 #97

We are discussing what FAUX News will sling..... BooScout Aug 2015 #59

i totally know they are not your smears restorefreedom Aug 2015 #98

OMG! BooScout Aug 2015 #14

Well jfern Aug 2015 #18

Bernie Sanders is not Obama. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #24

True, NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #29

Yes, Bernie has been doing politics since before Obama was born. senz Aug 2015 #31

And Obama has been a Democrat ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #77

It's not about labels, it's about values. senz Aug 2015 #84

And I value someone ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #90

Some of his views are slightly to the left of what many, but not all, Democrats will admit to. senz Aug 2015 #102

So? He has better principles than ANY of the current Democratic candidates Picking Dem Aug 2015 #92

I guess I'm missing ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #99

"Bernie wants to be voted senior class president of a school he refused to attend." ???? senz Aug 2015 #109

Of course BS isn't running ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #114

Do you think independants or people not currently registered with any party gives two shits.. frylock Aug 2015 #116

Do you think independents ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #117

Are you suggesting that if Sanders wins the primaries, that Democrats will not vote for him? frylock Aug 2015 #121

uh, yeah ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #123

I don't think I'm alone when I say that I don't know what the fuck your point is.. frylock Aug 2015 #124

Where did I say "it would cost him the GE"? NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #130

So, I ask again, are you suggesting that Dems will withhold their vote if Sanders wins.. frylock Aug 2015 #147

No, I haven't suggested any such thing. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #149

And the jury is in: neverforget Aug 2015 #122

Juror #2 seems confused, as I'm a Bernie supporter frylock Aug 2015 #162

Good lord. senz Aug 2015 #133

yay team! frylock Aug 2015 #115

Bernie is everything Democrats believe in. senz Aug 2015 #198

Apparently he's not. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #199

Oh I wouldn't do that, Nance. senz Aug 2015 #200

If Bernie represents ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #201

So had McCain treestar Aug 2015 #191

We can only hope Caretha Aug 2015 #55

+1 treestar Aug 2015 #190

candidate enid602 Aug 2015 #50

Nice try, NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #62

Oh I think you're wrong there.... BooScout Aug 2015 #69

FOX News polls, Email threads, and now Ann Coulter. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #15

Can't we trust Ms. Coulter? yallerdawg Aug 2015 #16

After reading his rap sheet here, Ds should be rooting for Jeb. libdem4life Aug 2015 #33

Ha, all of the republicans are running on the clown car platform so any democrat could cstanleytech Aug 2015 #38

I also think I agree with that succubus. L0oniX Aug 2015 #41

Then again, perhaps Coulter does view Bernie with the same senz Aug 2015 #42

The naivete is this thread overfloweth. nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #44

Gawd yer sophisticated. senz Aug 2015 #47

Well I'm not Gawd...but thanks. sufrommich Aug 2015 #52

LOL.. "ann coulter".. ROFL.. I bet there's a teddy cruz quote floating around out there someplace Cha Aug 2015 #66

The whole right wing smear machine has turned their sufrommich Aug 2015 #72

It's reverse psychology - of course they'd rather run against the weaker Sanders. Their objective.. George II Aug 2015 #46

That's not what she's saying at all. I have no idea how you got that from that. Number23 Aug 2015 #48

It's a direct quote from her... NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #56

Your interpretation of what she's said is what I disagree with. Number23 Aug 2015 #60

Well, to be honest NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #63

Well, I guess when dealing with people that think that Ann Coulter is speaking the truth about Number23 Aug 2015 #65

Who do you think the GOP would rather be debating against in the GE when something NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #67

That's why the GOP are attacking him relentlessly. sufrommich Aug 2015 #73

If you think that the GOP would rather go against Bernie Sanders, a 25 year Congressman who seems Number23 Aug 2015 #74

I'm not really inclined to take advice regarding Bernie from someone who is NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #75

I should have said member of Congress. Because FYI The Senate is a part of the U.S. Congress. Number23 Aug 2015 #81

Nice try...I understand though, was probably just a trasncription error. eom NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #83

Actually your "reminder" about his serving in both the House AND Senate makes my Number23 Aug 2015 #86

Call it as I see it. eom NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #88

So is half this thread re: your OP Number23 Aug 2015 #89

sh'e not really in so good with the GOP these days, and she may be trying to tell them some truth Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #64

Ann Coulter has never been correct on anything Geronimoe Aug 2015 #70

She did say in 2012 that Romney would lose. phleshdef Aug 2015 #112

they're so desperate they need ann coulter's opinion.. it's hilarious. Cha Aug 2015 #139

I read that Murdoch wants zentrum Aug 2015 #79

"He fears Bernie because, Murdoch said, all we can do with him is attack him on policy" sufrommich Aug 2015 #100

If money is speech... nxylas Aug 2015 #136

fucking aye.... mike_c Aug 2015 #87

Come into my parlor... quickesst Aug 2015 #91

What Republicans really think Jim Lane Aug 2015 #93

she likes to mindfuck people ericson00 Aug 2015 #95

Because we've always listened to Anne Coulter before. RandySF Aug 2015 #106

During the 2008 primary she said Hillary was the only Democrat running who was electable stevenleser Aug 2015 #107

Clinton Derangement Syndrome knows no bounds. Dawson Leery Aug 2015 #108

Funny how some here read the OP and understand it entirely backwards. The Republicans think rhett o rick Aug 2015 #120

It's simply this...the establishment in control of BOTH parties NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #143

And I want them to know that they may be successful in defeating Sanders, with their rhett o rick Aug 2015 #197

I agree. nt cyberswede Aug 2015 #195

Reccing because it pisses off the usual suspects Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #128

GOP can't run against someone who tells the truth, naturally they are not going to want to run sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #132

Although, I loath to take anything the this asshole says.... blackspade Aug 2015 #138

In the last presidential election, the Democrats ran a successful incumbent Eric J in MN Aug 2015 #144

Exactly... humbled_opinion Aug 2015 #145

Can't say I blame those pricks...they betta get ready to feel the Bern! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #146

Hey Ann, I smell hair burning. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #148

I thought I smelled bleach..... n/t Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #151

Which makes me wonder fredamae Aug 2015 #152

Yes, it's true.. NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #154

Agree with Coulter? ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #155

Nah. They'll paint him as an tavernier Aug 2015 #157

If Ann Coulter said it, it must be true! zappaman Aug 2015 #158

Riiight. Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #159

Sid? BeanMusical Aug 2015 #165

Lord help us if you really believe that.. Peacetrain Aug 2015 #160

Great Jumping Jehosephat! A Coulter thread with DU recs! leftofcool Aug 2015 #164

Don't Listen to Coulter Cary Aug 2015 #168

K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Aug 2015 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Aug 2015 #171

There are times when the mask slips, hifiguy Aug 2015 #188

Yes they do treestar Aug 2015 #189