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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)There's nothing redeeming or politically valid in Sanders speaking at Falwell's Liberty University [View all]
This isn't even triangulation, it's a blatant bid for the votes of racists and bigots who make it their life's purpose to work against the interests, needs, and concerns of women, minorities, Jewish individuals and anyone else who dares disagree with their religious doctrine of hatred and exclusion.
There's nothing to be gained in enlisting their ultra-conservative support for some economic platform while they actively seek to undermine basic liberties, rights, and values which progressives seek to defend and uphold.
To paraphrase Jeffrey Tayler at Salon speaking out against Jeb Bush cozying-up to Jerry Falwell Jr.'s religious school -where's the decency in giving heed to a university of haters,
""...founded and long administered by someone who had opposed Martin Luther King, the desegregation of public schools, the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court ruling legalizing abortion; had wanted the United States to expand, not end, the war in Vietnam; had supported apartheid, fought legislation forbidding discrimination against gays, spouted anti-Semitic rhetoric, and had voiced the opinion that the Anti-Christ walks among us as a Jewish male; had thought Chief Justice John Roberts not conservative enough, and, to top it off, showed de facto sympathy for al-Qaida by blaming Americans especially gay and feminist Americans for 9/11?"
"Falwell, said Jeb Bush, turned his back on no one. Well, no one except gays, who, Falwell said, had to endure AIDS as Gods punishment, as does the society that tolerates homosexuals. And at least for part of his too-long career, Falwell surely would also have turned his back on African-Americans. He boasted of having grown up in the segregated South, and believed that The true Negro does not want integration. . . he realizes his potential is far better among his own race."
"For those who read the above words and wish to accuse me of being a hater, let me say this: youre right. I hate that religion steals our funds some $82.5 billion through tax exemptions in 2013 alone, for example that we could have spent on our great needs, including rebuilding our infrastructure and bettering public education. I hate how its ignorant teachings about sex and reproduction cause unnecessary hardship, fostering underage pregnancies and the prevalence of STDs all most problematic in the God-fearing red states. I loathe how it yearns for the worlds demise, and even has 49 percent of Americans believing that climate change is just another inevitable sign of the End of Days."
This is a kick in the face of anyone who believed their interest in black lives, LGBT lives, women's lives, or anyone's life which falls outside of the university's (and it's founder and administrator's) narrow box of hate would take exclusive prominence in the Vermont Senator's agenda. Apparently, for Sanders, bigots, homophobes, racists, and demagogues' votes matter in his campaign. What an amazing disconnect from the interests of those he purports to represent; what an amazing betrayal of their lives to give heed to such a hurtful and socially threatening institution.
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There's nothing redeeming or politically valid in Sanders speaking at Falwell's Liberty University [View all]
bigtree
Aug 2015
OP
This looks terrible. Tone deafness clearly is an issue for this campaign.
AllFieldsRequired
Aug 2015
#43
Sigh...If Hillary did this, many Sanders supporters on this site would be SCREAMING
AllFieldsRequired
Aug 2015
#59
Correct. The mass attack on Sanders on AA issues mirrors 2008 attack on Obama on LGBT issues.
ieoeja
Aug 2015
#199
Liberty University is about 49% white, 15% black, many Latino and Asian and international
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#208
Obama 08. Two vids. McClurkin at Obama event, Obama asked at forum about that screed.
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#147
are you having this much of a problem with potus negotiating with iran?
questionseverything
Aug 2015
#152
Gee wiz straight man, you said Teddy was not there as a candidate in a Democratic Primary so
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#161
I believe you want to talk about me, not the issue at hand. You rejected Teddy at Liberty because
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#207
If HIllary did this you wouldnt be attacking her for it? I dont know you, but I KNOW
AllFieldsRequired
Aug 2015
#44
OK, I may have responded to one of the few Bernie supporters here, other than myself,
AllFieldsRequired
Aug 2015
#51
Are you saying most people at Democratic Underground are here to support Bernie?
AllFieldsRequired
Aug 2015
#63
Are you saying more people here support Bernie than Hillary? If so, how many will still be here
AllFieldsRequired
Aug 2015
#69
Agreed that Hillary will bring out the haters, but not more than Obama brought out.
AllFieldsRequired
Aug 2015
#77
I look forward to you posting this reliably every time Obama or Clinton attend a National Prayer
villager
Aug 2015
#56
Liberty U in Lynchburgoffers a dirt cheap education, for some kids it is all about getting a diploma
peacebird
Aug 2015
#129
Indeed, look at how much effort is spent right here on DU to convince us this is a failed idea
arcane1
Aug 2015
#39
Bernie steps out of establishment straight jacket, establishment supporters disapproves
HereSince1628
Aug 2015
#58
he'll be following other notable publicity seekers who spoke at convocations there
bigtree
Aug 2015
#12
So, Jeffress, Kennedy, and Sanders agree on everything, because they all spoke at the same location?
arcane1
Aug 2015
#37
Did you have a problem with that right wing pastor President Obama invited to speak
Armstead
Aug 2015
#46
The Ted Kennedy false equivalency versus topical reality is simply the best the supporters of this very bad move have.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#164
OK, I probably shouldn't have used that expression in that context and I apologize for doing so
tularetom
Aug 2015
#32
O-tay? For what reason are you quoting Buckwheat from The Little Rascals? What are you snarking at
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#76
Yes, that expression was inappropriate and I've already apologized to the other poster for using it
tularetom
Aug 2015
#83
Well, if you were trying to disprove Sanders campaign(ers) issue of being "racially tone deaf" you
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#86
In other words- you're racially charged bit of snark was disturbing. Full stop. No need to blame
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#92
Is "Clinton dog-whistled first" a real answer? Not the first time I have seen shitty things excused
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#144
Not only that but the crocodile tears about "racist dog whistles" before deploying one himself
Number23
Aug 2015
#168
People here (and everywhere) saying stupid shit like "O-tay" it ain't manufactured or a meme.
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#218
I didn't say THAT is the meme. I re-read what I wrote and what I wrote is clear.
AtomicKitten
Aug 2015
#221
I feel the same way when Hillary takes big money to assure the bankers that we are meanies to
djean111
Aug 2015
#6
Saying that Sanders is making "it's a blatant bid for the votes of racists and bigots"
Maedhros
Aug 2015
#89
again, there is no race card. It's a deflection used to dismiss discussion of race issues
bigtree
Aug 2015
#94
I think it's a great idea. Maybe we can convert some of them. We have to try.
Cheese Sandwich
Aug 2015
#47
I really can't believe so many are having a hard time deciding why Bernie is speaking to Liberty
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#48
Bernie does not have the largest audience of the candidates, he is hoping to get the largest of the
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#74
Jesus reached out to the sinners. (if u believe all that stuff). was he wrong for that? Preaching to
msongs
Aug 2015
#61
Wrong. Sanders is NOT going there to "preach to the choir". He is going there to explain to them
still_one
Aug 2015
#80
Yep, he's going right into the bubble with Truth, some may have never heard before.
arcane1
Aug 2015
#105
Both Bernie and the university are unabashedly on the record with opposing views on these issues
tk2kewl
Aug 2015
#110
Some think they should shape their message for a narrow segment of the population.
LWolf
Aug 2015
#118
you really think putting those words in my mouth is a defense against this appearance?
bigtree
Aug 2015
#125
I don't know jack about you and thanks to this op I don't ever want to find out more.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#137
yeah, I'm shocked to find folks who haven't given an inch to ANY criticism of Sanders
bigtree
Aug 2015
#140
That's so very wrong. Bernie is going into the lion's den to convert the heathens. nt
Zorra
Aug 2015
#130
What next, a campaign rally before a mandatory audience at NRA HQ? No Democratic candidate
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#132
Reaching back 60 years is the best defence I have seen yet. And that reminds me that these are the "Christians" that
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#145
32 years ago makes your strawmen more erect? Going into the viper's den for what, is the issue.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#149
Show me your OP railing against Donnie 'gays kill children' McClurkin, surrogate to Obama 08
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#136
Show me your OP treating that candidate to these high drama standards first, I asked first.
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#157
you might imagine that you know the minds and hearts of the students there
virtualobserver
Aug 2015
#154
You won't get an answer to that. It's fine for O'Malley, Obama or Hillary to do anything
Autumn
Aug 2015
#179
I spoke to a Girl Scout troop once about Engineering Careers, did that make me a Girl Scout?
FSogol
Aug 2015
#183
I don't recall anybody trashing Hillary or Obama for their 700 Club appearances in 2008?
ieoeja
Aug 2015
#202
I'd do it and I'd throttle them with my Jesus. Probably not Sanders' exact tact but I bet it comes
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#172
Calling BS. 1. Va has open primaries 2. The Liberty network spreads far and wide
underpants
Aug 2015
#176