2016 Postmortem

40yearyellowdog

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49. I think they voted for the one they thought would work to create jobs in their hometowns and didn't

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 08:21 PM

Jan 2017

care if people call him racist or not. Clinton and her PACs outspent Trump and his PACs by 2X. I am glad she has ads pointing out Trump's racist demagoguery, but she didn't need to run those ads continually until they bored people. She would have be more effective if she had had more different types of ads, including some directed at people concerned about job growth in rust-belt towns. We lost by very small margins in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin; with the right strategy, we could have won.

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Why Hillary Lost: An Exhaustive Look [View all] tgards79 Jan 2017 OP

Except that she didn't lose... TheDebbieDee Jan 2017 #1

Except she did lose in states that Democrats usually win. jonno99 Jan 2017 #5

of course 11 days before the election, comey releasing the letter to the republicans in still_one Jan 2017 #14

She lost under the stupid electoral college rules we're stuck with. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #8

There were a lot of factors, but I think what dealt the worst blow was the FBI interference still_one Jan 2017 #15

Yes, she did. Trump is president. You know how the system works. dionysus Jan 2017 #19

Sec Clinton got more votes, point blank! TheDebbieDee Jan 2017 #23

The winner is whoever wins the electoral college, you know this! She got more dionysus Jan 2017 #24

For analysis, see: states the campaign neglected Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #41

That would be nice BeyondGeography Jan 2017 #28

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Time to move on. democratisphere Jan 2017 #2

The article is wrong about Stein kenfrequed Jan 2017 #3

Good point. It's too binary to assume every single vote of hers would go to Clinton underpants Jan 2017 #30

Rather than saying "white working class," why don't they just say "racists?" Hoyt Jan 2017 #4

Beacuse that will guarantee more Democrat losses in the future. nt jonno99 Jan 2017 #6

Yeah, we need to attract racists to the Party. Do I need a sarcasm thingie? Hoyt Jan 2017 #7

Joe disagrees with your analysis - jonno99 Jan 2017 #10

Because "non college whites with middling income" are not all racist? dionysus Jan 2017 #25

I'm sorry, it is obvious Trump is a racist. I think voting for him is too. Hoyt Jan 2017 #45

No need to apologize, trump caters massively to racists, or is a racist himself. dionysus Jan 2017 #47

The media danced around that for his whole campaign underpants Jan 2017 #31

If we treated the pro-union part of the white working class as part of our base (which they are) 40yearyellowdog Jan 2017 #35

Oh, they voted for an obvious racist because they were called racists. Hoyt Jan 2017 #44

I think they voted for the one they thought would work to create jobs in their hometowns and didn't 40yearyellowdog Jan 2017 #49

So greed and racism. Their "white plight" is so bad, they'll accept the racist Trump. Ain't right. Hoyt Jan 2017 #50

Agree with every single word of this -great summary of all the factors (except for one) pkdu Jan 2017 #9

Yes no one mentions that or other suppression moved underpants Jan 2017 #33

Heartily agree.... and this is something WE ALWAYS TEND TO OVERLOOK... Raster Jan 2017 #53

Marking for later read underpants Jan 2017 #11

Let's ignore the fact that since 2013 14 states added restrictive voter and voter ID requirements. still_one Jan 2017 #12

???? tgards79 Jan 2017 #17

I told ya, the mere subject will make heads explode, some will go nuts and not even dionysus Jan 2017 #26

You got that right! tgards79 Jan 2017 #46

I did read the frigging thing, and my head DIDN'T explode. I don't agree that the reason she lost still_one Jan 2017 #56

Yes I did. I believe the effect was greater because of the 47% who didn't vote. still_one Jan 2017 #55

I think most of the voter ID laws were overturned, or there were ways around them. Agree on Comey Hoyt Jan 2017 #51

Not entirely true. In North Carolina, thousands of voters were removed from the voting roster. The still_one Jan 2017 #54

I got purged from rolls too in a town I had not voted in in 10 years because I moved. Hoyt Jan 2017 #57

That isn't why the NAACP won the case against North Carolina for the purging of the votes. still_one Jan 2017 #58

That's why it's important to check your registration, vote often, etc. Hoyt Jan 2017 #59

you mean North Carolina? still_one Jan 2017 #60

Sorry, although not a big difference nowadays. Hoyt Jan 2017 #61

North Carolina was pretty close, and Roy Cooper did get in as Governor, I would like to think my still_one Jan 2017 #62

Lived in Raleigh 50+ years ago. You are right, NC is not always red. I'm south of U. Hoyt Jan 2017 #63

I am saddened that he repeats the false claim that Trump did better than Romney among Latinos. StevieM Jan 2017 #13

Is this the claim you are referring to? Uponthegears Jan 2017 #32

Yep, that's the one. I hate that this fictitious claim is still being widely referenced as if StevieM Jan 2017 #37

I liked your link Uponthegears Jan 2017 #39

How many different ways can you say Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #16

Agreed underpants Jan 2017 #34

Its a good piece, but sayong "read it and weep" is a bit trollish... dionysus Jan 2017 #18

Apologies tgards79 Jan 2017 #21

Thanks. I thought it covered everything except GOP voter suppression, which sadly dionysus Jan 2017 #22

A bit? nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #43

One shouldn't forget the media. LisaL Jan 2017 #20

Here's my breakdown 60% was airtime. underpants Jan 2017 #36

From the article... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #27

"If everyone who voted for Jill Stein in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin had voted for Hillary 40yearyellowdog Jan 2017 #29

With 11 days to go she was in good enough shape to win even without those votes. StevieM Jan 2017 #38

Comey n/t Lil Missy Jan 2017 #40

Not this shit again. JTFrog Jan 2017 #42

If it is shit you are worried about... tgards79 Jan 2017 #48

fuck putin and t-rump. stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #52