2016 Postmortem

boston bean

(36,460 posts) Thu Jan 19, 2017, 05:50 PM Jan 2017

In under the wire... I am still very angry with Bernie Sanders [View all]

I think I will be for a very long time.

The disrespect he showed to the first woman Democratic Nominee, by not officially conceding graciously prior to the convention is unforgivable, imho.

I am angry that in 2008 Hillary was harangued for waiting a very short time after the primaries were over to concede to Barack Obama. I am upset that a double standard was placed upon her, ie lambasting her and ridiculing and shaming her for waiting for 4 days to concede. While Bernie was given every conceivable excuse for his actions for over 2 months.

I really do feel like he did a great disservice to Hillary and Democrats, whom he votes with 98% of the time. I think his actions played a part in Jill Stein getting as many votes as she did.

I'm not ready to get all goose pimply about him and probably never will be.

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In under the wire... I am still very angry with Bernie Sanders [View all] boston bean Jan 2017 OP

I am too bravenak Jan 2017 #1

That's shallow as hell. Eco omic justice for all is good for america. If you want to shit on that dionysus Jan 2017 #2

What the fuck good is economic justice if we have a nuclear war or if someone as Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #6

Again, most all bernie supporters voted for her. This continual blaming dionysus Jan 2017 #24

Nah, too many of them voted 3rd party Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #29

How many? Got any figures? There isnt many of them. dionysus Jan 2017 #56

90% of Bernie supporters voted proudly for Clinton.. I was one of them.. We NEED move on now, and secondwind Jan 2017 #115

But too many of them did NOT vote for Clinton. George II Jan 2017 #95

Thanks dionysus zentrum Jan 2017 #131

+1,000 Pretty much the way I am seeing it also. Bohunk68 Jan 2017 #162

I don't blame Bernie, but I do hold a grudge at those progressives who refused to vote for Hillary still_one Jan 2017 #133

Not enough, especially young voters. Bernie's attacks hurt their views of Hillary, pnwmom Jan 2017 #155

+1, this is the FACT that Sanders, M$M and Sanders supporters wont admit too... HRC Young vote was uponit7771 Jan 2017 #161

I was a national convention delegate Gothmog Jan 2017 #176

He shits on what I believe is good for all bravenak Jan 2017 #14

You must have a fucked up idea of utopia. Please detail what you abhor so much. I'm dying to hear it dionysus Jan 2017 #16

My identity as a black woman fighting for the rights of those who look like me bravenak Jan 2017 #40

Aside from maybe suggesting the use of paragraphs, you think he's racist, don't you? dionysus Jan 2017 #42

I think he is a throw back to the split between economic justice and social justice in the late bravenak Jan 2017 #44

There's lots of work to do snpsmom Jan 2017 #103

If you are going to suggest she use paragraphs... NCTraveler Jan 2017 #91

I'm so sick of fake Democrats, aren't you? nikto Jan 2017 #60

Thx dionysus Jan 2017 #64

Where does poster 'shit on economic justice'? Hint: she doesn't emulatorloo Jan 2017 #136

+1000 stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #96

Same here Gothmog Jan 2017 #170

I will not let it go I guess bravenak Jan 2017 #173

"Dont bash Democratic Figures" Alert pkdu Jan 2017 #3

+1 (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jan 2017 #69

You gotta read what the rule says as per Skinner Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #74

Many see the OP as "constructive criticism". George II Jan 2017 #105

And he never will be a Democratic Figure. stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #98

You gotta read what the rule says as per Skinner Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #125

I don't gotta do shit, bernie IS NOT A Democratic party Member. stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #156

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jan 2017 #171

They also prohibit talking about the rules, lol. nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #175

The rule specifically mentions Bernie as a person who is included among those tblue37 Jan 2017 #117

They also prohibit talking about the rules, lol. nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #174

DU rules explicitly prohibit bashing him. JudyM Jan 2017 #127

They also prohibit talking about the rules, lol. nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #172

I prefer Bernie's politics in most cases, not all, to hers. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #4

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #11

Not so at all. She got 3 million more votes, remember? Are you purposely ignoring the elephant in .. brush Jan 2017 #19

Sanders was a very weak general election candidate who would have been destroyed in the general Gothmog Jan 2017 #26

If Sanders was nominee then Bloomberg would have Run Chevy Jan 2017 #51

Yep Gothmog Jan 2017 #79

You know you post this constantly and without fail people pretend they don't know those points... JHan Jan 2017 #73

You can expose people to the facts Gothmog Jan 2017 #78

As the saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it." George II Jan 2017 #107

The DNC had nothing to do with the fact that Jewish, African American and Latino voters rejected Gothmog Jan 2017 #34

Sanders was in the race for media and was rejected by Jewish, Latino and African American voters Gothmog Jan 2017 #38

Primary has nothing to do with the general HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #116

Have you bought his latest book yet? Gothmog Jan 2017 #169

Sanders proposals were all based on a magical and mythical voter revolution Gothmog Jan 2017 #20

Still preferred them, and until we have actual politicians in power promoting them, we cant Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #21

Ah, the same spam! You call bernies new deal era shit magical? dionysus Jan 2017 #35

Exactly how many how many new/magical voters did Sanders need for his proposals? Gothmog Jan 2017 #41

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I think if the campaign and their surrogates made the primary campaign about... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #30

Nonsense. What you are saying is Trump was preferred since Hillary Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #31

You must have responded in the wrong place or didn't read my post. Try again. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #32

No, i responded and assumed you were criticizing Hillary's campaign, not Bernie's Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #39

Would you be celebrating an HRC win? nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #52

+1 NCTraveler Jan 2017 #93

The campaign was primarily about issues. George II Jan 2017 #111

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #163

The only positive thing I can think of about tomorrow The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #5

You may think it whining as is your right. boston bean Jan 2017 #7

I think it's whining too, and it's a pity because I think you lostnfound Jan 2017 #120

Yes! tecelote Jan 2017 #10

Yes but the hard feelings will not be going away anytime soon Gothmog Jan 2017 #18

It won't go away. It will just move to a different location. NWCorona Jan 2017 #54

Because nothing says "Democratic" like limiting discussion. (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jan 2017 #72

He Won't Stop Trashing Democrats otohara Jan 2017 #130

Oh, I'm betting it will not be done with. Bohunk68 Jan 2017 #165

'Politics ain't beanbag'... Talk Is Cheap Jan 2017 #8

Hillary wanted Obama to Win JI7 Jan 2017 #9

you are correct. She supported him 100% Justice Jan 2017 #12

If Sanders had never run for president I'd still like him very much. betsuni Jan 2017 #13

Well, that's helpful. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #15

Excellent poiny retrowire Jan 2017 #62

Nah, bullshit point. Bernie's a sitting Senator. HRC is a private citizen. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #134

What you are seeming to be saying is that anyone who is not Bohunk68 Jan 2017 #166

Same Here Gothmog Jan 2017 #17

I am too Nonhlanhla Jan 2017 #22

You seem nice Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #23

I am sure you will still be allowed to trash Bernie once this forum is closed down. m-lekktor Jan 2017 #25

I'm still having a hard time listening to his voice. lamp_shade Jan 2017 #27

We noticed. CentralMass Jan 2017 #28

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #33

As someone made the point up thread retrowire Jan 2017 #65

Sorry, Bernie said give Trump a chance as well. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #135

Whats she supposed to say? She doesnt hold office anywhere currently and anything she says against cstanleytech Jan 2017 #145

I currently see celebrities and all kinds of private citizens speaking up. retrowire Jan 2017 #159

No, The Systems Not Totally Rigged. But That Idea Sure Helped Donald Trump. Gothmog Jan 2017 #36

It sure did help Donald Trump. It was over a year of slamming the party without being R B Garr Jan 2017 #53

Sanders claimed that the DNC rigged the process and Trump ran with this bogus claim Gothmog Jan 2017 #77

I thought that there were emails showing some of the DNC leadership were working against Bernie? cstanleytech Jan 2017 #147

The DNC had nothing to do with Sanders being soundly rejected by Jewish, African American and Latino Gothmog Jan 2017 #168

Umm I'm not making any case for Bernie here I am simply asking a question. cstanleytech Jan 2017 #180

Don't be angry at Bernie because it will keep you from seeing who he really is underthematrix Jan 2017 #37

Just can't agree Chiquitita Jan 2017 #43

You read in this thread, me slamming Bernie supporters? boston bean Jan 2017 #45

Yeah, it felt that way Chiquitita Jan 2017 #46

You felt it? and a comment that I said he shits on people's hearts?? mmmmmkay... boston bean Jan 2017 #47

That wasn't your comment. Chiquitita Jan 2017 #48

They can't help it nikto Jan 2017 #71

They love losing onecaliberal Jan 2017 #92

Agree! He did a great disservice to Hillary and Democrats, and agree with R B Garr Jan 2017 #49

Nonsense. It was his right to run, and he's not the one who stole this election. tenorly Jan 2017 #50

Phew, be glad when this monotonous recrimination ends, at least officially. Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #55

He showed the most respect to her as an opponent retrowire Jan 2017 #57

I like yours better SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #102

Even though I disagree with you I understand your frustration. This was a hard and bitter election NWCorona Jan 2017 #58

I feel exactly the same way..but we have to move on...what else can we do?..nt asuhornets Jan 2017 #59

Not forget how the first female democratic nominee was treated. boston bean Jan 2017 #61

Neither will I...neither will I...nt asuhornets Jan 2017 #68

With the most respect any opponent could give? Won't forget that. Nt retrowire Jan 2017 #70

Sorry, Weaver made the decision to go negative for New York primary emulatorloo Jan 2017 #137

But we're talking about Bernie aren't we? Nt retrowire Jan 2017 #139

Don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining emulatorloo Jan 2017 #140

Maybe I'm missing something retrowire Jan 2017 #160

Yes. . .campaigning with her after the convention is worse than calling her a nasty woman Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #86

Are you reading this cognitive dissonance? retrowire Jan 2017 #104

Yes, I see it too. But, I guess finger pointing is easier than mirror looking. Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #112

I see a bunch of revisionist history that is erasing the negative campaign Weaver ran for NY emulatorloo Jan 2017 #138

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #143

Bernie's not the devil. Nor is HRC, despite your half-truths and innuendo. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #148

Nope. I am backing out of this flamebait thread. This entire thread should have been Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #150

Fair enough. Agreed, it is getting pretty toxic n/t emulatorloo Jan 2017 #151

I'm with you. He was more visible in the days after the GE LisaM Jan 2017 #63

Agreed (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jan 2017 #66

Emotions are running high bdamomma Jan 2017 #75

When I think I'm over it, some bullshit happens... JHan Jan 2017 #76

Per the jury rules Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #80

This is postmortem bravenak Jan 2017 #83

Rules is rules. Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #84

And the rules are that it is postmortem bravenak Jan 2017 #88

Thank the stars. This professional Bernie hate is enough. Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #90

I hope it doesnt apply to folks like him bravenak Jan 2017 #97

Sure is! XD nt retrowire Jan 2017 #101

I can't believe this shit. he will the Prez tomorrow..n/t asuhornets Jan 2017 #81

Even though I believe his refusal to concede helped weaken Hillary a little against Trump cstanleytech Jan 2017 #82

I am actually upset that he pulled his punches. If he had gone after the email scandal full throttle yodermon Jan 2017 #85

Supported Bernie, but voted for HRC Babushka Jan 2017 #87

Your frustration is justified. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #89

Bernie is the future EOM tiredtoo Jan 2017 #94

How? At nearly seventy five, how is he possibly the future? bravenak Jan 2017 #99

Bernie represents the future of the Democratic party tiredtoo Jan 2017 #108

How? bravenak Jan 2017 #142

obviously the person is more important than the issues... JHan Jan 2017 #109

It's like he's Jesus bravenak Jan 2017 #141

here we go again elmac Jan 2017 #100

Petty and short-sighted post ihaveaquestion Jan 2017 #106

Anger noted. There's blame to go around. slumcamper Jan 2017 #110

Really, its all Bernies fault now? elmac Jan 2017 #113

These vicious attacks on Bernie seem to come from an alternate universe! Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #114

"by not officially conceding graciously prior to the convention" PoliticAverse Jan 2017 #118

Actually, in 2008 she announced that she would be suspending her campaign less than 24 hours StevieM Jan 2017 #119

So Hillary couldn't handle any opposition whatsoever? Ligyron Jan 2017 #121

Exactly! m-lekktor Jan 2017 #123

Excellent points. senz Jan 2017 #149

No one can handle being torn down consummately by anyone. It always takes down numbers and uponit7771 Jan 2017 #164

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #122

Yawn Ace Rothstein Jan 2017 #124

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Ditto leftofcool Jan 2017 #128

Unforgivable - I'd Never Follow Him otohara Jan 2017 #129

I am angry at those progressives who refused to vote for Hillary in the general election. still_one Jan 2017 #132

Thats their right though but they like those who voted for Trump will have to learn to cstanleytech Jan 2017 #144

Of corse it is their right, but that doesn't change my view about them still_one Jan 2017 #146

Okay fine but I'll tell you what SHRED Jan 2017 #152

I can understand that Renew Deal Jan 2017 #153

Anger doesn't even begin to describe my contempt. The constant ridiculing of the only viable.... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #154

Strangely - I'm not JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #157

Lol Arazi Jan 2017 #158

I work in NYC with many Bernie supporters jzodda Jan 2017 #167

I never trusted him, and never will. nt LexVegas Jan 2017 #177

He's a meanie! QC Jan 2017 #178

I'm angry that HRC botched her campaign Larkspur Jan 2017 #179

Here's the killer for me -- Bill Clinton, one of the finest political minds QC Jan 2017 #181

I totally agree BB! MoonRiver Jan 2017 #182