2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: To Sanders supporters FROM a Sanders supporter: please stop saying Bernie should've got the nom. [View all]Gothmog
(154,200 posts)Your claims would have more impact if Sanders supporters did not try to drive everyone else out or attack anyone who disagreed with Sanders. Sanders claims are great but you do realize that in the real world that Sanders had no chance of passing his unrealistic agenda. Sanders made campaign promises that he could never deliever on in the real world and then Sanders attacked anyone who disagree with Sanders as being non-democrats.
Sanders silly and unrealistic platform was based on the rather sad premise that Sanders would generate a revolution that would produce millions or billions of new voters who would force the GOP to be reasonable. As noted on post 15 of this thread, Sanders so called revolution was a complete failure and there were no true new voters. There is no way that any of this platform could come about in the real world but Sanders lied to his supporters and claimed the he could force the GOP to accept this platform. Sanders lie was based on the premise that a magical revolution would come about where millions or billions of new voters would rise up and force the GOP to reasonable. The concept of this revolution was so silly that it cause a number of loyal democrats to run away from Sanders.
Guess what, the sanders revolution did not occur and never had a chance of occuring Here is how Sanders thinks that he will be able to force the GOP to be reasonable http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/21/1483791/-Imagine-Bernie-Sanders-wins-the-White-House-Then-what
Thats a phrase Sanders uses often, but what does he mean by it? Sanders has said that if he wins the presidency, his victory will be accompanied by a huge increase in voter turnoutone that he thinks might end Republican control of Congress. But Sanders acknowledges that the House and Senate could, in spite of his best efforts, remain in GOP hands come next January.
Given that likelihood, Sanders offers an alternate means for achieving his political revolution. He says he knows that a Democratic president cant simply sit down and negotiate with Republican leaders and forge a series of compromises. Anyone who's observed the GOPs behavior over the course of Barack Obamas presidency would not dispute that, and in any event, no compromise with Republicans would ever lead to single-payer anyway.
So what then? How would a President Sanders get Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan to pass any of his big-ticket items? This is the model he proposes:
What we do is you put an issue before Congress, lets just use free tuition at public colleges and universities, and that vote is going to take place on November 8 ... whatever it may be. We tell millions and millions of people, young people and their parents, there is going to be a vote ... half the people dont know whats going on ... but we tell them when the vote is, maybe we welcome a million young people to Washington, D.C. to say hello to their members of Congress. Maybe we have the telephones and the e-mails flying all over the place so that everybody in America will know how their representative is voting. ...
And then Republicans are going to have to make a decision. Then theyre going to have to make a decision. You know, when thousands of young people in their district are saying, You vote against this, youre out of your job, because we know whats going on. So this gets back to what a political revolution is about, is bringing people in touch with the Congress, not having that huge wall. Thats how you bring about change.
The rest of the DK article debunks that concept that Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell could be influenced by these new voters but we never get to this issue and Sanders himself admits that he will not bet elected without this revolution. This so-called revolution never came to pass.
It was hard for me to take Sanders' proposals seriously because this revolution only existed in Sanders imagination. Again, where were these millions/billions and millions/billions of new voters?