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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Says Trump Won Because Democrats Are Out Of Touch [View all]SFnomad
(3,473 posts)174. That really depends on where in California you live
And mostly the difficulty is just housing and associated costs. Anyplace near the coast from just north of San Francisco all the way to Mexico would be difficult. Also, along the I-80 corridor from San Francisco to Reno / Lake Tahoe.
But most of the rest of California is really no different than the rest of the country and there are large areas where average housing prices are no more than $100k. Of course, the closer you get to even the smaller "large cities", like Fresno and Bakersfield, the prices do shoot up, but nothing like SF.
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Bernie Sanders Says Trump Won Because Democrats Are Out Of Touch [View all]
portlander23
Jan 2017
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it is like we don't have the house or the Senate or the Presidency. It is like the reason we have a
JCanete
Jan 2017
#43
is it actually a joke though? Would Republicans be able to steal elections without the help of the
JCanete
Jan 2017
#66
Well the Dems ARE out of touch...hey, we lost everything ..states and fed government
MaeScott
Jan 2017
#158
Exactly!!! The Trump win was based on Racism and Bigotry!!! I don't get why so many back off
RKP5637
Jan 2017
#52
trump only won MI by 10K votes. There were more votes than that not even counted in Detroit
putitinD
Jan 2017
#53
Hillary most likely WON MI, had they counted all the votes. Detroit is a democratic stronghold.
putitinD
Jan 2017
#69
Yup, 75,000 votes in Detroit and Flint weren't counted. And you know most were Hillary votes
brush
Jan 2017
#71
My point. That would have been a perfect opportunity to "keep after Trump". He didn't.
George II
Jan 2017
#106
it is NOT "Bernie hate" whatsoever when I now call him out for aiding in the minimisation
Grey Lemercier
Jan 2017
#6
Good post. Why is "broken record Bernie" ignoring all the real reasons that you stated?
brush
Jan 2017
#63
If Bernie is a Democrat, then he has just admitted that he is out of touch with the voters.
TexasTowelie
Jan 2017
#8
He is not a Democrat--he has said this. He is an independent who caucuses with the Democrats.
MADem
Jan 2017
#22
I'm 58, close enough, and I don't want anyone my age or older telling us what to do.
randome
Jan 2017
#47
Bank account? His voters averaged 70k and are "seething" about money only because they despise
bettyellen
Jan 2017
#23
Live in California, make 70k for a family of four, and see how far that gets you.
SlimJimmy
Jan 2017
#95
Racism and sexism were the biggest predictors of a Trump vote. I'll grant you it overlaps with
bettyellen
Jan 2017
#99
As long as this chasing WWC idea does not include "setting aside" the rights and justice
bettyellen
Jan 2017
#132
No, I am complaining about the media's focus on the WWC - did you miss all the round tables
bettyellen
Jan 2017
#138
I gave you the last word, you didn't do much wth it. Want to expand your answer?
SlimJimmy
Jan 2017
#141
they did vote for her in the general. only reason it's ignored us because some think only white
JI7
Jan 2017
#173
And therein lies the problem. Many non-white working class in this country have also
SlimJimmy
Jan 2017
#178
Well, we just disagree on this one. Clearly, I'm not going to change your view.
SlimJimmy
Jan 2017
#184
My brother lives and works in California and makes about 60k a year. To be honest, he is
SlimJimmy
Jan 2017
#167
With the price of housing in meropolitan areas of California, that's easy to understand.
SlimJimmy
Jan 2017
#175
He lives in the Fresno area and housing there is quite expensive compared to the rest of the
SlimJimmy
Jan 2017
#176
Yes he did. Badly. But did you really think the "Donald" was ever going to win there?
SlimJimmy
Jan 2017
#185
While I think Sanders is right, Democrats were right to champion transgender bathroom rights.
JCanete
Jan 2017
#50
He's just wrong. Trump won because Putin helped him and we've got a shitload of racists in USA.
MADem
Jan 2017
#20
That UPSHOT was a BRIGHT SPOT for you--who needs hating racists cluttering up your
MADem
Jan 2017
#146
Sanders lost because he failed utterly to appeal to voters beyond a narrow base of white voters
Gothmog
Jan 2017
#29
Bernie only gives credit to Bernie and denigrates other Dems who've worked hard for us.
bettyellen
Jan 2017
#37
I did not think his run was any more of an ego trip than it was for Hillary-
bettyellen
Jan 2017
#56
Sanders ran solely for media coverage and the latest comments continue this pattern
Gothmog
Jan 2017
#45
I think the fact that Hillary made millions on speeches to Wall Street really hurt her.
jalan48
Jan 2017
#55
Sanders has had nothing nice to say about Trump. This is the problem with comments being taken
JCanete
Jan 2017
#70
hahaha! just pamphlet covers with carnivores being ridden by children...like what do they eat now?nt
JCanete
Jan 2017
#80
"One of the reasons that Mr. Trump won is that we have millions of people....
George II
Jan 2017
#73
Just saying more votes were cast does not mean a higher percentage of the voting public was involved
JCanete
Jan 2017
#78
But the article does go on to say that there was a downtick of eligible voters who voted per capita.
JCanete
Jan 2017
#100
The complaints were that the DNC wasn't setting up registration tables at Sanders rallies....
George II
Jan 2017
#104
he's doing it to make Trump into a liar and hypocrite, and to continue to hammer that home for the
JCanete
Jan 2017
#81
Because Trump was already proven beyond all doubt to be a liar and hypocrite
Blue_Tires
Jan 2017
#89
Last I checked almost three million more Americans preferred the Dem candidate
Blue_Tires
Jan 2017
#77