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2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

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10. We need to make changes.

Reply to zipplewrath (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 6, 2017, 03:11 PM

Jan 2017

Last edited Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)

But the argument on that needs to be framed in a way that takes it out of the debate over who we should have nominated.

It's legitimate to question platform language or strategic choices in the fall campaign.

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Who we should or shouldn't have nominated NO LONGER MATTERS. [View all] Ken Burch Jan 2017 OP

Amen brother n/t blue cat Jan 2017 #1

until what you suggest happens, we aren't going anywhere still_one Jan 2017 #2

"I'll stop if they'll stop!" nt JCanete Jan 2017 #3

Exactly. tecelote Jan 2017 #4

The lost art of coalition-building- it means work together on what you agree upon - and Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2017 #5

Until you figure out this is actually antithetical NCTraveler Jan 2017 #6

No I'm not. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #9

We also need to learn from our mistakes mtnsnake Jan 2017 #7

+ 1 red dog 1 Jan 2017 #11

In what direction? zipplewrath Jan 2017 #8

We need to make changes. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #10

We "probably" need to make changes? red dog 1 Jan 2017 #12

Ok, change "probably" to "clearly" Ken Burch Jan 2017 #13

"The tone here is hopelessly toxic at this point"? red dog 1 Jan 2017 #16

Actually, I'm amazed zipplewrath Jan 2017 #17

+++++++ uppityperson Jan 2017 #41

How do you know that Warren or Sanders even wanted the VP job? NobodyHere Jan 2017 #19

If not for caucuses, it wouldn't have been even remotely close. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #20

"I want Warren in the Senate"? red dog 1 Jan 2017 #21

I don't accept the premise that Sanders being on the ticket would have helped. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #22

Well, you're entitled to your opinion. red dog 1 Jan 2017 #23

Future aspiring nominees must recognize that... Garrett78 Jan 2017 #14

No one called for such an approach. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #25

It wasn't what he said it was what he did or didn't do dsc Jan 2017 #38

And neither he nor Hillary is going to run for president again. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #39

Hear, hear! nt DLevine Jan 2017 #15

More than anything, people need to realize that voting AGAINST something awful... NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #18

we nominated the person who won 4 million more votes La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #24

And what I'm saying is we shouldn't even be talking about that anymore. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #26

I am not the one relitigating a primary blowout La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #27

I'm not either. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #30

Again, this is not even a debate to be had La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #34

The whole point of this thread is that our conversation shouldn't be about who we nominated at all. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #35

AMEN! Fighting for best spot on the beach ignoring the January 20th tsunami. IADEMO2004 Jan 2017 #29

Well said!!! If we don't all pull together as ONE, divide and conquer will take us ALL down. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2017 #28

100% True. Snackshack Jan 2017 #31

Ken...this we can agree on! Trump is dangerous...all hands on deck. nt Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #32

That's what I'm saying. Thank you. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #36

We need an uprising. Lint Head Jan 2017 #33

Agree! MarvinGardens Jan 2017 #37

K&R uppityperson Jan 2017 #40